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Old Jan 8, 2008 | 02:04 AM
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Would I need to smog my 1976 Ford F-350 Super Camper Speacial RangerXLT its got duall tanks and a 390 and no cad I read if a truck in California has dual tanks its smog exempt is this true? Please tell me...

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Old Jan 8, 2008 | 03:12 AM
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No you won't be smog exempt because it's a 1976 (1975 is the cutoff). Having dual tanks means that a portion of the test (evaporative system I think) won't be performed due to the dual tanks.
 
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Old Jan 8, 2008 | 03:28 AM
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awww man I hate smogging!!! Are you shure theres no way my trucks exempt?

 
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Old Jan 8, 2008 | 09:16 AM
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No you won't be smog exempt because it's a 1976 (1975 is the cutoff). Having dual tanks means that a portion of the test (evaporative system I think) won't be performed due to the dual tanks.
Read what is says here in the second to last paragraph: smogcheckcagovt/ftp/etblast/00000013819.htm

"State Law provides that vehicles 30 model years old and older ARE EXEMPT."

"Beginning in January 2003, 1974 and older vehicles are exempt."

January 2004: 1975 models are exempt.

January 2005: 1976 models are exempt.

January 2006: 1977 models are exempt.

etc...

CA Smog Registration Questions: 916-255-4476 or 866-860-8509.
 

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Old Jan 8, 2008 | 09:28 AM
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If the old law was still in effect, 1978(or 79) would be the current cutoff. The law read 1973, or 30 years. Now it reads 1975, propane under 15K gets tested again, 75 and older still subject to random testing(random roadside,) with no under hood lookie lou-ing, just the sniffer and a visual check for gasoline leaks.

The only portion of the smog test that you won't (maybe) be subjected to is the new test they started performing this year. It clearly states in the rules that just because your vehicle is on the list, does not make it exempt from the test, its up to the tech to determine. Either way, do yourself a favor and buy two new non locking style gas caps. They will test those, and if they are no good, it will cost you either another smog, or $40 (new caps) for something you could have purchased at Wal-mart for $10.
 
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Old Jan 8, 2008 | 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by masterbeavis
If the old law was still in effect, 1978(or 79) would be the current cutoff.
I just went to the CA DMV site that pertains to smog exemptions.

See my post above.
 
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Old Jan 8, 2008 | 09:55 AM
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That is the way the law used to read. Once the rolling exemtion started, it made it for three model years, up to mid 76. Then the good ol governator came in and repealed that law, rolling the exemption back to 75, and giving us the current law we have now, where 75 and older is exempt, and diesel (for now) and propane over 15K. The website does not always contain accurate information. If the old law was still in effect, my 77 I just smogged for no reason, despite the fact my renewal paperwork clearly stated it required it.

stolen from wikipedia, the easiest/first resource I could find and quote
California emission testing laws were amended in 1998 when SB 42 was passed—a new criteria phased in was the rolling chassis exemption to which vehicle manufactured between 1973–1998 were subjected to emission testing. This law was reversed last year by California governor Arnold Schwarznegger where the rolling chassis exemption was repealed; as of 2005, 1976 and newer vehicles are subject to testing.

If you still dont believe me, call the DMV, 1 (800) 777-0133, hit 11220, and ask them.

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I just went to the CA DMV site that pertains to smog exemptions.

See my post above.
 
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Old Jan 9, 2008 | 02:30 AM
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So is my 76 scs exempt after this year? I just got it smogged.. It passed!!!!
 
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Originally Posted by masterbeavis
That is the way the law used to read. Once the rolling exemption started, it made it for three model years, up to mid 76. Then the good ol governator came in and repealed that law, rolling the exemption back to 75, and giving us the current law we have now, where 75 and older is exempt, and diesel (for now) and propane over 15K. The website does not always contain accurate information. If the old law was still in effect, my 77 I just smogged for no reason, despite the fact my renewal paperwork clearly stated it required it.

stolen from wikipedia, the easiest/first resource I could find and quote
California emission testing laws were amended in 1998 when SB 42 was passed—a new criteria phased in was the rolling chassis exemption to which vehicle manufactured between 1973–1998 were subjected to emission testing. This law was reversed last year by California governor Arnold Schwarznegger where the rolling chassis exemption was repealed; as of 2005, 1976 and newer vehicles are subject to testing.

If you still dont believe me, call the DMV, 1 (800) 777-0133, hit 11220, and ask them.
I went to the CA DMV website, and gave the references listed, along with the web address and phone numbers.

If the info is wrong on the CA DMV website, that's their fault...not mine.

Go to the site, and read what it says.

Wikipedia is a poor source for info...not only for auto related answers, but for other info in general.
 

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Old Jan 9, 2008 | 03:11 PM
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I live in Ca. and used to have a smog license. I have delt with this alot. Masterbevis is correct anything 76 or newer has to be smoged forever, unless they change the law or you are in a area that doese not require it (their are a few areas in Ca. that are still exempt but not many). I only by 75 and older Ford trucks because of this.
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Old Jan 10, 2008 | 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by NumberDummy
I went to the CA DMV website, and gave the references listed, along with the web address and phone numbers.

If the info is wrong on the CA DMV website, that's their fault...not mine.

Go to the site, and read what it says.

Wikipedia is a poor source for info...not only for auto related answers, but for other info in general.
When I decide to argue with you, it is because I have either seen it with my own eyes, been there and done that, or know something you don't.


Quoted from the California Department of Consumer Affairs
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http://www.smogcheck.ca.gov/StdPage.asp?Body=/Smogcheck/doineed.htm
Originally Posted by the people who regulate the subject
<table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="601"><tbody><tr class="header"><td colspan="2" align="left">Do I Really Need A Smog Check?" </td> </tr> <tr height="10"> <td>
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Not all vehicles must get a Smog Check. Additionally, some vehicles only need a Smog Check when they are being sold or being registered in California after previously being registered in another state. Whether or not a vehicle needs a Smog Check depends on the type of vehicle, the model-year, and the area in which the vehicle is registered.
Some vehicles are exempt from the Smog Check program
Legislation enacted during 2004 made several changes in motor vehicle Smog Check exemptions that will become effective next year. Following is a summary of the revised exemptions and the effective date of each change:
Beginning January 1, 2005, vehicles 6 or less model-years old are exempt from the biennial Smog Check inspection requirement. For vehicles with registration renewals due in the 2006 calendar year, this exemption includes model-years 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005 and 2006.
Beginning January 1, 2005, vehicles 4 or less model-years old are exempt from the Smog Check inspection requirement upon change of ownership and transfer of title transactions with DMV. In 2006, this exemption includes model-years 2003, 2004, 2005 and 2006.
Beginning April 1, 2005, the 30-year rolling exemption has been repealed. Instead, vehicles 1975 model-year and older will be exempt. Therefore, 1976 model-year and newer vehicles will continue to be subject to biennial inspection indefinitely.
Beginning April 1, 2005, vehicles being initially registered in California that were previously registered in another state are exempt if the vehicle is a 1975 and older model-year vehicle. Newer vehicles, the first 6 model years, are not exempted upon initial registration in California. These vehicles are required to undergo a Smog Check Inspection.

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To clarify to 76f350spercamprspeal, you will have to smog your truck for the duration of its life , which means forever. The only (legal) caveat to that is you move to one of the handfull of counties that require smog for the initial transfer only. (meaning once that is done, no more smog)

This map (white areas) show those areas. This is the lastest map shown on the BAR website, but things are subject to change without the website being updated.
http://www.smogcheck.ca.gov/ZIPAREA/Ziplookup.aspx

 
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man I hate it when You need to smog. But I did get her to Pass last week when my scs got smogged.

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Old Jan 10, 2008 | 09:18 PM
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Hmmmmm.....I would they would call it something else. ?)

Jingle playing at the inspection station:

" Have you had your Smogging today ? "


How about "Emissions Output Diagnosis " or EOD
 
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I would they would call it something else. ?)
Dennis, maybe you shoulda had a V8??
 
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haha very funny
 
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