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Hey, Hi,
This is gonna find ya a little funny and not at all original,,, but,,,,,,,I'm lookin for a new old motor for my truck,,, I was hopin that someone out there could point me in the right direction. I see alot of old Lincolns, T-Birds, and other monster cars from the 70's that I know had CJ, SCJ, and interceptor motors in them,, can anyone give me an easy way to idnetify one of these motors? I see these old cars for sale all the time for next to nothing, especially now with the price of gas the way it is,,, I'm an honest man and all,, but if someon's willing to get rid of an old gas hog w/out knowing what's under that rusty old hood,, kinda my gain,, ain't it? So, anyway,,,, kinda hopin there was something to look for in the VIN or specific model or year of make. Not real into crawlin under the car and tryin to clean off the casting #'s to find all this out if there is an easier way.... I come to y'all with this cause I know someone will have something for me,,,,, Kudos to y'all,,, between the all of ya,,,, you know just a little more then everything,, thanx,
This is gonna find ya a little funny and not at all original,,, but,,,,,,,I'm lookin for a new old motor for my truck,,, I was hopin that someone out there could point me in the right direction. I see alot of old Lincolns, T-Birds, and other monster cars from the 70's that I know had CJ, SCJ, and interceptor motors in them,, can anyone give me an easy way to idnetify one of these motors? I see these old cars for sale all the time for next to nothing, especially now with the price of gas the way it is,,, I'm an honest man and all,, but if someon's willing to get rid of an old gas hog w/out knowing what's under that rusty old hood,, kinda my gain,, ain't it? So, anyway,,,, kinda hopin there was something to look for in the VIN or specific model or year of make. Not real into crawlin under the car and tryin to clean off the casting #'s to find all this out if there is an easier way.... I come to y'all with this cause I know someone will have something for me,,,,, Kudos to y'all,,, between the all of ya,,,, you know just a little more then everything,, thanx,
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You didn't really say what EXACTLY you're looking for.
385 series engines ?
Good luck finding a CJ or SCJ without some serious $$$$ involved.
Any 68-69-70-17 T-Bird,Mercury Marquis, Lincoln will mosy likely have 429's or 460's in them.
Base 429's/460's had C8VE-C9VE heads & blocks
D0OE heads are great.
I would post in the engine forums for more info.
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385 series engines ?
Good luck finding a CJ or SCJ without some serious $$$$ involved.
Any 68-69-70-17 T-Bird,Mercury Marquis, Lincoln will mosy likely have 429's or 460's in them.
Base 429's/460's had C8VE-C9VE heads & blocks
D0OE heads are great.
I would post in the engine forums for more info.
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Dennis, as usual, is right. If your looking for a CJ/SCJ in the 385 series you need to be looking at Mustangs or Fairlane/Torinos. They were only in production for a couple of years 1970-71. I could be wrong on this but I believe the interceptor engines were also relatively short lived...around 1972-1974. You would be very hard pressed to i.d. a CJ/SCJ without dropping the pan and opening up the valve covers for a look-see. Deen
P.S. I did see a very rare Ranchero at a car show about 10 years ago. The 1971 Ranchero (another Fairlane off-shoot)was complete with shaker hood, 429SCJ, 4-spd, and drag-pack.
P.S. I did see a very rare Ranchero at a car show about 10 years ago. The 1971 Ranchero (another Fairlane off-shoot)was complete with shaker hood, 429SCJ, 4-spd, and drag-pack.
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CJ 4-bolt blocks, when you can find them, run $800+. DOOE (CJ/SCJ) heads are out there and run $600+. $8-900 is the norm. I've seen several complete CJ engines for sale at $2500+. These are ALL used prices and would require rebuilding.
The '72-74 PI engines were 2-bolt blocks but the heads are very desirable. $350-500 bare and becoming more difficult to find.
The only way to possibly identify a CJ/SCJ engine without checking casting numbers is by the factory aluminum valve covers. But that doesn't always mean it is a CJ/SCJ.
The demand for CJ and PI heads by pullers and mudders who must run iron heads in stock classes has pretty well identified all the loose CJ and PI heads. There are still some sitting around, but boneyards know exactly what this stuff is and what it's worth, as does anyone who follows the 385. There are plenty of people in most places who have searched every possible running, abandoned, junk and hidden in barns candidate for a CJ/SCJ engine.
I'd say you'd probably have better odds at winning a lottery than finding a CJ/SCJ engine for nothing.
The '72-74 PI engines were 2-bolt blocks but the heads are very desirable. $350-500 bare and becoming more difficult to find.
The only way to possibly identify a CJ/SCJ engine without checking casting numbers is by the factory aluminum valve covers. But that doesn't always mean it is a CJ/SCJ.
The demand for CJ and PI heads by pullers and mudders who must run iron heads in stock classes has pretty well identified all the loose CJ and PI heads. There are still some sitting around, but boneyards know exactly what this stuff is and what it's worth, as does anyone who follows the 385. There are plenty of people in most places who have searched every possible running, abandoned, junk and hidden in barns candidate for a CJ/SCJ engine.
I'd say you'd probably have better odds at winning a lottery than finding a CJ/SCJ engine for nothing.
