Upholstery Question?
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Upholstery Question?
When using foam padding that is covered with cloth only on one side, do you glue the cloth side to your panel base or do you face it outward towards your final panel cover...be it vinyl, leather, cloth, etc...?
The last persone to work on this truck glued the cloth to the base panel (facing inward) and I was just curious of the correct way to do it...
thanks, Ed
The last persone to work on this truck glued the cloth to the base panel (facing inward) and I was just curious of the correct way to do it...
thanks, Ed
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That cloth is meant to keep the back of the upholstery fabric from rubbing away at the foam due to friction. The foam does not move after glued to frame, but the fabric moves over the foam when seated on it. Some guys use waxed paper to stop the friction and to help slide the cover over the foam especially on leather. TRUXX56 will be here soon to add to this (or correct me) as he is a pro at this and my info is just opine and common sense.
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Hey E, I sent you an email on this subject, feel free to post that email if you know how to do it as I'd like to not have to type all that again.
But if he don't the backing on the foam goes away from the vinyl as it is what the stitches catch in. It's called sew foam. We draw our design on the foam then sometimes depending on the vinyl, lightly glue the vinly onto the foam then stitch the design into it. You want to have your stitches lengthened out for this so make several practice runs on some scrap of the same materials and foam.Then the backing can be glued to the doorpanel or whatever panel. Sometimes we even glue the seat covers on to keep them from moving around and getting wrinkles.
GOD bless, and I hope this helps
But if he don't the backing on the foam goes away from the vinyl as it is what the stitches catch in. It's called sew foam. We draw our design on the foam then sometimes depending on the vinyl, lightly glue the vinly onto the foam then stitch the design into it. You want to have your stitches lengthened out for this so make several practice runs on some scrap of the same materials and foam.Then the backing can be glued to the doorpanel or whatever panel. Sometimes we even glue the seat covers on to keep them from moving around and getting wrinkles.
GOD bless, and I hope this helps
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Hi, This is the answer truxx gave me. To clarify, I am dealing with door panels and soon will be doing the back of cab and roof panels (roddoors). I used the cardboard templates and cut my own 1'4" boards for the footwell and doors.
I'n not glueing the cover vinyl to the door foam (I will let it float), but will have to glue it onto the back and roof panels due to the curves...also the ABS wont hold a staple like the 1'4" wood bases will.
I was kinda on the right track but was curious on the "Experts" opinions here on the site!
Thanks for the advice, Ed
Hey man, the cloth backing goes away from the vinyl, you use that to "catch" the stiches when you sew through the vinyl to the foam your design in it. The answer to your second question is a little more complicated as sometimes I've glued it and it worked fine, and other times it causes BAD wrinkles. If you have some scrap, I'd recommend doing a test piece?
You didn't tell me what kind of vinyl you're using and that does matter in the question of if you glue it to the foam or not. The best kind of foam for this application is what we call sew foam and it has the silky back on it. Ours is pink with a white back on it. The vinyl that wrinkles the worst is a vinyl called Alante also Ultraleather, Pleather and Rave are bad about wrinkles when glued. You should probably try to "float it" to start with, and then go from there. When we make our door panels, we sew the material up and then glue it to the panel.
You want to put extra glue on the stitching to help hold them down tight and also to help hold the stiching. We use contact glue, and you can get some close to it form Lowes or Home Depot. It's the kind used for gluing counter tops on (Formica) type.
Hope this helps
I'n not glueing the cover vinyl to the door foam (I will let it float), but will have to glue it onto the back and roof panels due to the curves...also the ABS wont hold a staple like the 1'4" wood bases will.
I was kinda on the right track but was curious on the "Experts" opinions here on the site!
Thanks for the advice, Ed
Hey man, the cloth backing goes away from the vinyl, you use that to "catch" the stiches when you sew through the vinyl to the foam your design in it. The answer to your second question is a little more complicated as sometimes I've glued it and it worked fine, and other times it causes BAD wrinkles. If you have some scrap, I'd recommend doing a test piece?
You didn't tell me what kind of vinyl you're using and that does matter in the question of if you glue it to the foam or not. The best kind of foam for this application is what we call sew foam and it has the silky back on it. Ours is pink with a white back on it. The vinyl that wrinkles the worst is a vinyl called Alante also Ultraleather, Pleather and Rave are bad about wrinkles when glued. You should probably try to "float it" to start with, and then go from there. When we make our door panels, we sew the material up and then glue it to the panel.
You want to put extra glue on the stitching to help hold them down tight and also to help hold the stiching. We use contact glue, and you can get some close to it form Lowes or Home Depot. It's the kind used for gluing counter tops on (Formica) type.
Hope this helps
