anyone here have electric fans? just wondering if i'd see any noticeable improvements in gas mileage or power?

 

of course they do they prolly make more/give back horse power and and gas mileage than getting a CAI or exaust job.

 

Efans was about the 4th or 5th mod we did to my F150, but in hindsight I would have done it much sooner! Its a very noticeable difference, in acceleration, power, mileage, etc. I always recommend efans!

 

The conversion to electric fans is very much worthwhile, but it needs to be mentioned that you need to be careful in your selection, and avoid the el-cheapo copy-cats. We recommend using only a kit that has had the benefit of actual design and independent R&D, and uses only top-quality components. Unfortunately, there are certain individuals who will put out anything and make all kinds of claims about it, only to find out they are copy-cats using vastly inferior & much cheaper grade components - this was in fact done by one individual right here, who tries to copy us using inferior grade components at every turn, and even copying almost word-for-word our web site content on this part, as well as a near-verbatim copying of our installation manual. We had no choice but to take the time to accumulate enough evidence to take proper legal action to protect our copyrights, which is about to begin - so very soon now, that individual will be getting a big surprise. The point being, you have to be very careful about what is out there - not only among the obvious el-cheapo stuff, but also some of the "name-brand" kits as well, some of which are famous for poorly designed single controllers with high failure rates, very light-duty fan motors with straight exposed blades, and all kinds of nonsense.

In fact, the only reason we make our own fan kit is simply because nobody else ever made a kit that used the quality of components and design features & capabilities that we insist on.

This is something the creator of this very web site knows about, and when it came time to convert the Roush project truck owned by Ken Payne, the creator of this web site, he came (once again), to us for our kit and expert installation. In fact, there is a complete article written up by Ken available right here on this web site regarding our Troyer Performance Electric Fan Kit for the 2004 & up F-150 - additionally, there is also a Group Buy going on right now on our kit, as well as special installation pricing, too.

The power gains from converting our our Troyer Performance Electric Fan Kit are anywhere from a low of 12 RWHP to as much as 18 RWHP, depending on the exact weight of the fan & clutch assembly used in each individual vehicle - even in the 2004 & up F-150's they vary. The fuel mileage gains run anywhere from a lowest reported gain of 1.0 mpg to as much as 3.5 mpg - although the average tends to run in the 1.2 - 1.7 more mpg range, just to give you a better idea of what more people tend to actually average.

We actually designed & produced the first and only truly redundant dual 16" electric fan kit made specifically for the F-150 - our kit is two completely independent cooling systems, so that in the unlikely event that any part has a rare problem, the vehicle can continue to be operated. Unlike the poor attempts to copy us, either one of our specially-wound 16" electric fan motor assemblies by itself pulls enough CFM's thru the radiator to handle the cooling needs of a 400 RWHP F-150 towing a load. The BTU transfer rate of the radiator & cooling system when equipped with our Troyer Performance fan kit is far in excess of anything else on the market, and of course, vastly exceeds the factory clutch-fan setup, to say the least.

In our kit we have designed proper custom-fabricated fan mounting brackets that are machined & powder-coated, and are made specifically to accommodate all 3 of the different size radiators found in the 2004 & up F-150 - a feature found nowhere else, and a design we have a patent pending for.

Additionally, we use a very high quality and specially-wound motor in our electric fans, as well as a controller that is built to our specifications. Between the quality of our components, the custom mounting brackets, and the wiring setup that we use, the installation is much easier and far more professional with our kit, and the MTBF (mean time between failure) ratings are superior to anything else on the market for these Ford trucks.

You can find the article on the installation of our Troyer Performance Dual 16" Electric Fan Kit for the 2004 & up F-150 right here on this web site, as well as links to it in 4 different sections of these message boards.

We urge everyone to read the article, and please feel free to give us a call to take advantage of our current Ford-Trucks.com Group Buy, which runs thru January 15th. You can obtain the highest quality electric fan kit made for the 2004 & newer F-150, and just what you see installed on the fantastic Roush project truck owned by Ken Payne, the creator of Ford-Trucks.com - you can also view a number of other articles on the mechanical build-up we have done on this truck, from the installation of the Roush supercharger, to the thorough custom tuning & dyno work, as well as our many Troyer Performance modifications to the vehicle, all listed in the articles section of this web site.

You can also see much of our work on Ken's truck by going to the www.roushperformance.com web site, and looking at the January 2007 Roush newsletter, the archives to which you will see at the bottom of the page at that URL.

We'd like to thank Ken Payne for the opportunity to do so much work on his truck and for his faith in us, and thanks to "dadirtydogg" for his post on this topic of electric fans, & best of luck with your truck, too!

 

Uh...OK, thanks, I think. So, is there anyone who installed ANY fan kit that can offer an UNBIASED opinion of its performance? It would be good if the respondent was a consumer and not a seller.

 

For whats its worth, you can get fans from whoever you want, as long as they cool the engine.

The important factor is removing the heavy mechanical fan. I put an efan kit that I pieced together myself before I even had my business, because I didnt find the higher prices justifiable, so from a completely consumer standpoint, I was very surprised with the gains I noticed. The engine was smoother, especially right after startup, no "whooshing" noise, it spooled up faster in acceleration, and my highway mileage was much improved! (at the time I was getting pretty bad city mileage with my heavy foot, so I didnt check for gains there).

But as with any modification, there are always drawbacks. Efans are not as reliable as the factory clutched mechanical fan. No matter what people tell you, EVERY VENDOR'S efan kits have had their problems. Yes, everyone. We had problems ourselves, but they have allowed us and other vendors to fine tune the products to provide the best product for our customers.

As far as who's kit to get? Thats up to the consumer. I've found that arguments and pot-shots between vendors do nothing but sour their image, so I tend to stay out of them

 

well i have efans on my truck that i bought from jusnes and think it is well worth it and the quality of the parts is top notch, not to mention it is cheaper to buy from them instead of troyer. if i got a brand new truck i would be making a order with jusnes for a new set of fans

the jusnes fans use 2 controllers so incase if one does go bad the other fan works just fine, i did have a fan go out yes but i live in arizona wich is one of the hottest states and i ran all summer with 1 fan with outside temps reaching 120

 

I havent gotten an efan on my '05 yet, but a few yrs ago, I installed one on my '72 390. Definitely felt a difference with it. Then same fan with newly rebuilt 390 with added 4 bbl, hotter cam, intake, headers etc got the same mileage on the highway that the old bone stock motor did. Also let the motor heat up much faster in the winter time.

 

What kind of time and trouble is the installation? Do the kits that you are talking about come with everything needed?

 

I can say without a doubt that the Troyer kit I have is top notch. Not standard automotive wiring loom, but high temp loom. Not universal radiator push throughs to mount the fans, but custom made brackets which look close enough to OEM that when I took my truck in for service the dealer thought they were Roush parts and honored my Roush warranty for a MAF problem - the service guy even called the fans "Roush fans". Very high end controllers, much thicker guage wire than, for instance, off the shelf Hayden parts. Tied to the to the PCM's ignition source wires, the AC clutch, etc. Well researched parts and incredible documentation.

I can't speak good or bad about any other dealer's kit because I haven't experienced them, but I can say I'm very pleased with the kit I have. The ONLY modification I've made to Troyer's kits is I purchased a plastic electronics box to house the controllers in so they blend in better under the hood (if you look at the article I wrote you'll see them without this box, and they still look very good).

There are a lot of options out there, from do-it-yourself to manufacturer kits to custom kits like Troyers. Do your homework, find out which option is best for you. Only my 67 F150 I wired up an e-fan myself but it was a much simpler truck to work on. I'm glad someone did the homework for me on my 2006 and making an install on a complex truck nearly as easy as it was on my 67.

Troyer's kit came with everything needed, except tools! Installation is a couple of hours and pretty simple. One recommendation I can make is to use a very hot soldering iron (not a cheapie one) to solder connections -- better in the long run this way as you'll get better penetration of the solder through any joints you choose to solder.

 

Thanks, How much does the troyer kit cost? I put a efan on my 32, so I can figure that out I think. Sounds like a good kit.

 

The Troyer kit is about $100.00 more than anyone elses on the market, I never could get an answer from them as to why, it was basically "Because we have it and you don't" That didn't really make me want to share my hard earned cash with them !

 

Troyer has a special group purchase going on right now. It is tacked to the top of this forum page. I don't know anything about pricing it, but it seems fairly reasonable to me. Looks like about a year to "break even" if the MPG claims are near accurate.

 

What are these mileage gain claims?


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they are claiming up to 2-2.5 mpg gain and about 12RWHP. i guess the stock fans weigh almost 30 lbs, so the engine will spool much faster turning the less weight. the group buy right now will save each member about 50.00, and it lasts until jan 15th. the cost is 379.99 plus shipping. thats why i havent ordered one yet, where i live it will cost me 130 to ship.

i did talk to troyer and they said that to increase the gains even more, they recommend the underdrive pulleys, but thats another 200+ dollars.