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Old Dec 24, 2007 | 07:02 PM
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Question Changed air filter today

I'm approaching 12k miles (11,750) and will have my truck serviced at my local Ford dealer this weekend.I decided to check my air filter over this past weekend,and am glad I did; it was nasty!The factory installed filter was an off orange color.I bought a Motorcraft filter from my local dealer ($14.95+ tax) and it is white. Was the factory installed filter of better quality then what my Ford dealer sold me?
 
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Old Dec 24, 2007 | 08:17 PM
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No. They're both overly restrictive pleated paper filters.
 
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Old Dec 24, 2007 | 08:28 PM
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No. They're both overly restrictive pleated paper filters.
I take it you don't like paper air filters? I myself prefer them over the POS K&N type filters!
 
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Old Dec 24, 2007 | 08:44 PM
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I don't have a problem with the paper filters. In fact I prefer them over the oiled cotton filters. However, the one Ford uses is a bit small and lacks enough surface area.
 
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Old Dec 24, 2007 | 08:54 PM
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I don't have a problem with the paper filters. In fact I prefer them over the oiled cotton filters. However, the one Ford uses is a bit small and lacks enough surface area.
When you say "surface area",what exactly are you referring too?
 
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Old Dec 24, 2007 | 09:29 PM
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They use the folds or "pleats" to increase the surface area so that more air can make it through the filter in any given moment. It's more efficient than if they just used a flat square filter. Basically by adding the folds you can fit 2 square feet of surface area in a 1 square foot space. But, the Ford filter is still real small and the pleats are too close together in my opinion. The oiled K&N filters allow more air because they are a great deal more porous and the pores are a great deal larger. Hence the need for oil to help out with the filtering process. Unfortunately, some of that oil can gunk up the intake.
 
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Old Dec 25, 2007 | 12:46 AM
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10k on mine and changed it 3 times already, seems it really gets dirty when it rains. Maybe my oversize tires are kicking crud into the fender air intake. Theres always a black spatter on it. I drive alot of dirt roads and eat dust all the time...
 
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Old Dec 26, 2007 | 06:16 PM
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Canstacker, get one of those foam pre filter covers.
 
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Old Dec 26, 2007 | 06:51 PM
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The thing about large-surface area air filter is the reduced pressure across it. With a small filter, the engine still is pulling the same volume of air across it which results in higher pressure. This causes the smaller particles to get sucked through as well as reducing the time it takes for the filter to get clogged. A large-area filter has much lower pressure across it and takes longer to clog up. Just looking at the filter for my 2007 F-150 with 4.2L V6, I was very impressed with the design and surface area. Anyone interested in a great air filter design just needs to look at any lawn mower with the Honda engine - it has a large rectangular pleated filter that probably has fairly low pressure on it. If this filter is 4"x5" (20 sq. in.) for a 160 cc engine, it would have to be 23"x23" (about 525 sq. in.) on my V6 to be equivalent. That's a big filter.
 
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Old Dec 26, 2007 | 07:27 PM
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Changed mine at 12k with a Puralator Blue paper filter. I think if you go with a quality paper filter, change it regularly,that's all you need. Don't care for those pre-oiled filters myself.
 
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Old Dec 26, 2007 | 07:56 PM
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Air Filters

I read alot of problems that folks have with "Oiled" air filters. Myself, I've never had a problem with either dirt entry into the engine or oil contaninating the MAF. However, I do remove my air inlet tube about every other oil change (5000 mile interval) and clean the throttle body and inspect the intake tube. If it's contaminated, I clean it. When I do clean and oil the filter, I don't use much oil. It doesn't need much. I've seen some people think the filter must be fully coated. However, all it really needs is a film. What I do is to use a small amount on top of each pleat and let it soak down for a few hours.
 
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Old Jan 4, 2008 | 12:42 AM
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The problem with oiled filters is the fact that there is a sesnor very close to the filter, the oil can mess up this sensor and will end needing replacement. I is better to go with a dry performace filter. I am trying out the puralotor PPA filter which is above the paper filter but not as good as a performance filter. Better this then replacing the sensor.
 
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Old Jan 4, 2008 | 12:56 AM
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Ford designed the truck with the Motorcraft filter, not an expensive K&N one.
Keep the paper filter and replace it when dirty.
I removed my junk K&N from my FSB, cleaned the MAF and the truck runs better now than it did with the K&N.
All my trucks will get Motorcraft from now on - except the carbbed Bronco that is.
 
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Old Jan 5, 2008 | 07:37 PM
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yes, Ford did design the truck with the paper filter, but IMO, it was just to save a few pennies. ($40). X 1million trucks = $40,000,000. My sensor is approx 3' from the K&N CAI. Just dont get crazy with the oil when you clean it. I prefer the newer kit that has the aerosol oil spray instead of the squeeze bottle. Much faster, and better coverage.
 
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Old Jan 5, 2008 | 11:08 PM
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Hey BOF, you probably already know where I stand on this issue, but wanted to chime in anyways.

Regarding the oiled media filter issue.....

I have used one on my previsouly owned 2000 model (sold at 170,000 miles) and my current 2005 model (with 120,000 miles). Both = 4.2 V6.

I have never had any problem with the MAF.

I have used oil analysis results showing numbers as good as, or better than results obtained with paper element filters.

I like not having to buy new filters. (The oiled media filter has more than paid for itsself).

I generally check the inside of the intake plenum when I take the filter off, and have never found ANY signs of dust - on either truck.

I respect everybody's decision to buy what they want for their truck. But do like to offer my real world experience for others to consider.

Thanks!
 

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