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Old Dec 15, 2007 | 03:25 PM
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4x4 and heating problem

Had a problem with the 4x4 in the driving in snow sucks thread. Now im not so sure its even in 4 wheel drive. I have the ESOF and it says its in but Im not so sure. How do I tell for sure?

I also only have defrosters. I have read that these are connected to a vacuum leak. True?

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Old Dec 15, 2007 | 03:40 PM
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You either have a vacuum leak or a bad vacuum pump. The symptoms are classic for this.
 
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Old Dec 15, 2007 | 03:41 PM
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Very true. You have a leak in your vacuum system some where. The vacuum is what controls the blend door and what operates the auto hubs. If your defroster works ok until you switch the ESOF, then the leak is in the lines below the 4x4 solonoid, or a bad seal in one of the hubs. If your defroster is alway blowing, no matter where your ESOF is, then you leak is at you leak is between you vac pump and anywhere under you dash.
 
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Old Dec 15, 2007 | 05:36 PM
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Defroster is always blowing.

Thanks for the help.
 
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Old Dec 15, 2007 | 05:52 PM
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Start at the vacuum pump, then the canister, then just start tracing the lines back thru the fire wall and under the dash. There are several plastic connections that tend to break or come unplug. Pump will run with switch on engine off. First thing you need to check is make sure the pump is running. Should hear it, mounted on passenger side fender unless they moved it after 03.
 
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Old Dec 15, 2007 | 07:41 PM
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I had that problem on my 2000 at 350. Everything went to defrost. There is a nipple on the hub that a vacuum line connects to and it's very possible that nipple has corroded and creating a vacuum leak. Try that
 
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Old Dec 15, 2007 | 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by G BOBKA
I had that problem on my 2000 at 350. Everything went to defrost. There is a nipple on the hub that a vacuum line connects to and it's very possible that nipple has corroded and creating a vacuum leak. Try that
Good advise and from a member that sees the value of becoming a supporter in less than 67 post.
 
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Old Dec 15, 2007 | 08:50 PM
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It has to be that. I have the auto/lock hubs and if I lock them it goes into 4 wheel drive. Where is this nipple located and how do I get to it?
 
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Old Dec 15, 2007 | 09:58 PM
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The nipple is on the hub. Follow the vacuum line down to where it connects (or should connect) to each hub,
 
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Old Dec 15, 2007 | 10:01 PM
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The vacuum solenoid for the ESOF also has been known to leak vacuum ... when it's off, it vents the hubs to the air. Somehow it gets dirt in it or something, and it leaks vacuum ...

Just keep that in mind when checking for leaks - it's more likely you have a broken hose somewhere. Better to try the free things first
 
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Old Dec 15, 2007 | 10:49 PM
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If I read this correctly, his problems exist when not in four wheel drive, this would point to a problem with his in cab air system. This would be from the solenoid to the canister back to the pump then to the cabin air system. Start by undoing the line at the soleniod and plugging it. If problem still exist, the ESOF system is not the problem, or at least not all the problem. I'm betting it one of the cheap plastic tees under the dash. Good news is, most of the time you can hear and find them easy.
 
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Old Dec 15, 2007 | 11:06 PM
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If I read this correctly, his problems exist when not in four wheel drive, this would point to a problem with his in cab air system. This would be from the solenoid to the canister back to the pump then to the cabin air system. Start by undoing the line at the soleniod and plugging it. If problem still exist, the ESOF system is not the problem, or at least not all the problem. I'm betting it one of the cheap plastic tees under the dash. Good news is, most of the time you can hear and find them easy.
Right, the heat only come from the defroster all the time. The 4x4 wont engage unless I lock the hubs myself.
 
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Old Dec 15, 2007 | 11:14 PM
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Look/listen under the dash, find the small tubing run you fingers along in and check the connectors and tees.
 
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Old Dec 15, 2007 | 11:15 PM
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Is this a diesel or gasser? I only know the diesel side. Not sure if the gassers have a vacuum pump or comes off the manifold.

My vacuum pump died and I had the same symptoms. Dealer wanted about $145 for new one. Couldn't find a used one localy. Ended up buying a used one off of Ebay that was out of a Volvo. Paid less than $20 including shipping and still working after 2 years. Had to cut the connector off and crimp a couple of slide terminals on to make it work though.



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Old Dec 15, 2007 | 11:25 PM
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I was able to get the glove box past it's normal stops and get a hand in there. You can see a hose or two back there.
 
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