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Old Dec 11, 2007 | 09:34 PM
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stereo question - audiophile system interface

anybody out there with a new sd and the audiophile system? does it have a touchscreen interface or a regular stereo interface? dealer says no screen, ford website under options page brings up a pic of a screen interface like the nav system obiously sans the navigation system.

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Old Dec 12, 2007 | 01:42 PM
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My 2008 Lariat has a regular 6 disc radio with no touch screen and the audiophile package. I do know if you order the navigation radio it automatically includes the audiophile speakers.
 
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Old Dec 12, 2007 | 01:54 PM
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There is no touchscreen on the audiophile head unit, only on the navigation unit. Ford must have had the picture mislabeled. I just did a "Build Your Own" 08 on there site and under the interior options if you click on "details" next to the radio names it will show you pictures of them. The regular 6 disc CD player, and Audiophile 6 disc cd player look exactly the same (My buddies 08 with audiophile stereo also has a 6 disc changer that looks like the one I took out of my 07).

Personally, I think the audiophile system sounds pretty good for a factory system and isn't overly expensive upgrade ($255 for better speakers, an the amp+sub). I would recommend it to people that would like better sound but don't want to go through the hassle of doing it all themselves.

The Navigation upgrade is a huge ripoff though ($1875 upgrade from the audiophile system). You would be much better off getting the audiophile system and an aftermarket head unit like the Pioneer AVIC-D3 or Kenwood DNX-7100.
 

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Old Dec 12, 2007 | 03:28 PM
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There is no touchscreen on the audiophile head unit, only on the navigation unit. Ford must have had the picture mislabeled. I just did a "Build Your Own" 08 on there site and under the interior options if you click on "details" next to the radio names it will show you pictures of them. The regular 6 disc CD player, and Audiophile 6 disc cd player look exactly the same (My buddies 08 with audiophile stereo also has a 6 disc changer that looks like the one I took out of my 07).

Personally, I think the audiophile system sounds pretty good for a factory system and isn't overly expensive upgrade ($255 for better speakers, an the amp+sub). I would recommend it to people that would like better sound but don't want to go through the hassle of doing it all themselves.

The Navigation upgrade is a huge ripoff though ($1875 upgrade from the audiophile system). You would be much better off getting the audiophile system and an aftermarket head unit like the Pioneer AVIC-D3 or Kenwood DNX-7100.
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i am going to try out the audiophile. it may just be fine. otherwise i can switch out speakers first - the most important upgrade, usually, depending on the quality of the head unit. i don't need nav - it is a ripoff unless you live in a big city and need it.
 
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Old Dec 12, 2007 | 03:58 PM
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it is a ripoff unless you live in a big city and need it.
Not totaly true.
 
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Old Dec 12, 2007 | 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by tex25025
Not totaly true.
what other use is it for???
 
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Old Dec 12, 2007 | 05:19 PM
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I don't live in a big city(you said live in a big city) anymore but I do "need"(I put it in quotes because I could use a map as a substitute or yahoo! maps as well instead of a gps, but a gps surpasses both of those in terms versatility and actually in safety as well) it. I travel alot(which is a reason you did not mention) and I use it to find places that I don't know where they are(mainly horse shows as that pertains a great deal to my job(breed, train, and show horses for the bulk of my living; I draft contracts for other equine business owners as well). A will also mention that while I do travel to big cities for some of the shows, sometimes I go to small hick towns as well that I don't know where everything is and I use it there. I can think of some more instances, but I think that's more then enough to show that you don't really have to live in a big city and need it to be able to derive useful purpose from it. I don't think you realized it, but when you said live in a big city and need it, you were saying you had to have both of those in order for a gps not to be a ripoff. I know that's nit picking, but that is what you said, maybe not what you meant, but it's what you said.
 

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Old Dec 12, 2007 | 05:40 PM
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I guess if you live in a small town, and only drive to the same places nearby all the time you probably don't need navigation, but I still wouldn't say that navigation is a rip off (although Fords unit definitely is). I bought my navigation unit for $400 and added it to my DVD player head unit. I definitely think it was worth that cost. Now when I am on long trips I can easily see how close the nearest food/fuel stop is. If I am going to meet a buddy at his place, a new bar, etc that I don't know where it is, I don't have to ask for directions just the address. It really is quite usefull.

The two head units I mentioned both have DVD players, and navigation built in, as well as the ability to easily control an ipod or hook up to a bluetooth phone. They both can be found for under $1000 pretty easily. They will sound better, and obviously have many more features for a lot less money than Ford wants. If you really don't want navigation check out the Kenwood DDX-7019, it offers all of the same features without the built in navigation for less than $700 if you shop around.
 
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Old Dec 12, 2007 | 05:43 PM
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Now when I am on long trips I can easily see how close the nearest food/fuel stop is.
The problem with that is that it doesn't tell you if that fuel stop has diesel.
 
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Old Dec 12, 2007 | 05:49 PM
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Yeah I know, I really wish it would. A lot of times you can tell by the name of the place though.
 
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Eventually they will. Most of the consumers for gps(atleast for the initial years of their offering) where for regular road tripers in sedans or other various gas cars. Now that they are more common on just about every vehicle, I think they will. Just give it time, I mean Zagats is on there how hard could it be to add diesel stops to it.
 
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Old Dec 12, 2007 | 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by tex25025
I don't live in a big city(you said live in a big city) anymore but I do "need"(I put it in quotes because I could use a map as a substitute or yahoo! maps as well instead of a gps, but a gps surpasses both of those in terms versatility and actually in safety as well) it. I travel alot(which is a reason you did not mention) and I use it to find places that I don't know where they are(mainly horse shows as that pertains a great deal to my job(breed, train, and show horses for the bulk of my living; I draft contracts for other equine business owners as well). A will also mention that while I do travel to big cities for some of the shows, sometimes I go to small hick towns as well that I don't know where everything is and I use it there. I can think of some more instances, but I think that's more then enough to show that you don't really have to live in a big city and need it to be able to derive useful purpose from it. I don't think you realized it, but when you said live in a big city and need it, you were saying you had to have both of those in order for a gps not to be a ripoff. I know that's nit picking, but that is what you said, maybe not what you meant, but it's what you said.
when i said rip off i meant the ford model - they make a good profit on low quality electronics. maybe the new model breaks all other truck manufactures typical electronics.

i live in a small town. i could definately see the use of a nav if i worked out of my truck - absolutely. for me when i go somewhere new i just look at mapquest on the computer. the nav would be easier now that i think about it - that is why i asked.
 
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Old Dec 12, 2007 | 06:15 PM
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Eventually they will. Most of the consumers for gps(atleast for the initial years of their offering) where for regular road tripers in sedans or other various gas cars. Now that they are more common on just about every vehicle, I think they will. Just give it time, I mean Zagats is on there how hard could it be to add diesel stops to it.
Actually I just sent an email to Navteq's customer service asking if they have thought about adding that information in the future. Navteq is the company that makes Garmin's maps as well as a lot of other companies. I wouldn't think it would be too hard for them to add a few words like gas, diesel, food, snacks, etc. to help you figure out what different stations offer.
 
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Old Dec 12, 2007 | 06:29 PM
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when i said rip off i meant the ford model - they make a good profit on low quality electronics. maybe the new model breaks all other truck manufactures typical electronics.
AAAAAHHHHHHHH ok, now I understand. I can understand how you feel about that then considering in my experiance there has been only 1 factory nav. system that I thought was worth anything compared to aftermarket and it isn't the ford one.
 
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Old Dec 12, 2007 | 06:30 PM
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Actually I just sent an email to Navteq's customer service asking if they have thought about adding that information in the future. Navteq is the company that makes Garmin's maps as well as a lot of other companies.
There used to be two companies that did that, but I think NavTeq is the only one left.
 
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