Notices
1987 - 1996 F150 & Larger F-Series Trucks 1987 - 1996 Ford F-150, F-250, F-350 and larger pickups - including the 1997 heavy-duty F250/F350+ trucks

Battery upgrade question.

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Dec 4, 2007 | 06:43 PM
  #1  
Pearlwhite94's Avatar
Pearlwhite94
Thread Starter
|
Senior User
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 154
Likes: 0
Battery upgrade question.

I have a 94 f150 truck with the inline 6 and i have a couple of subwoofers that dimms all my lghts and stuff. I ruined my previous battery and iam now in the process of buying a new one. Im going to upgrade to an optima but i was wondering because i have access to a second battery, should i wire both into the truck. What would be the side effects if any of running two batteries? ANd does anyone know the easiest way to do this?
 
Reply
Old Dec 4, 2007 | 06:53 PM
  #2  
TheRoadVirus's Avatar
TheRoadVirus
Elder User
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 841
Likes: 0
From: Orangeville, Ontario
It sounds like you need a bigger alternator.. buying a new battery won't solve your issues if you drain it too quick for the alternator to compensate.
 
Reply
Old Dec 4, 2007 | 08:26 PM
  #3  
dixokai's Avatar
dixokai
Senior User
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 320
Likes: 0
From: Southeast Idaho
Put a capacitor in your sound system for voltage support that will stop the lights from dimming when the subs hit. I don't know that much about sound systems but I do know that the Optima red top is one hell of a battery. As said above you also probably need a bigger alt.
 
Reply
Old Dec 4, 2007 | 09:27 PM
  #4  
Pearlwhite94's Avatar
Pearlwhite94
Thread Starter
|
Senior User
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 154
Likes: 0
i actually know quiet a bit about sound systems and so i have a capacitor already installed but i saw on the summit racing website that they sell a wiring harness for a second batter installation. And it can be connected or disconnected with a switch adn if your batter ever dies you can switch on the second one and jump start yourself. But i was wondering why they had it on a switch, does itaffect anything for the truck to be rnning on two batteries?
 
Reply
Old Dec 4, 2007 | 09:30 PM
  #5  
tomtoc's Avatar
tomtoc
Posting Guru
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 1,265
Likes: 0
from my limited electrical knowledge, everything basically "runs" of the battery, but the battery is constantly being topped off by the alternator. if the alternator's not outputting enough, your lights dim. solved by more rpms or more alternator output. 2 batteries might make your lights dim less (maybe), but i think the alternator is still your answer
 
Reply
Old Dec 4, 2007 | 09:31 PM
  #6  
TheRoadVirus's Avatar
TheRoadVirus
Elder User
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 841
Likes: 0
From: Orangeville, Ontario
I have an optima redtop.. and for those inquiring minds.. I'm on my third. I've gotten two ill ones.
 
Reply
Old Dec 4, 2007 | 09:41 PM
  #7  
Pearlwhite94's Avatar
Pearlwhite94
Thread Starter
|
Senior User
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 154
Likes: 0
Wow, im about to buy an optima and i hope i dont get one that is bad cause their expensive. Does anyone know what amps the stock alternator on an inline 6 has?
 
Reply
Old Dec 4, 2007 | 09:44 PM
  #8  
tomtoc's Avatar
tomtoc
Posting Guru
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 1,265
Likes: 0
Originally Posted by Pearlwhite94
Does anyone know what amps the stock alternator on an inline 6 has?
autozone is guessing either a 75 or 80. no idea what would be enough. i think mine had a 90 in it. they also had a 130 option.
 
Reply
FTE Stories

Ford Trucks for Ford Truck Enthusiasts

story-0

Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

 Joe Kucinski
story-1

AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make

 Brett Foote
story-2

Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-3

Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

 Verdad Gallardo
story-4

10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

 Joe Kucinski
story-5

2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road: Better Than a Raptor R?

 Brett Foote
story-6

2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package First Look: 12 Things You NEED to Know!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-7

10 Most Surprising 2026 Ford Truck Features!

 Joe Kucinski
story-8

Top 10 Ford Trucks Coming to Mecum Indy 2026

 Brett Foote
story-9

5 Best / 5 Worst Ford Truck Wheels of All Time

 Joe Kucinski
Old Dec 4, 2007 | 09:46 PM
  #9  
92mnfordtrk's Avatar
92mnfordtrk
Senior User
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 212
Likes: 0
From: Arizona
You can't easily hook up two batteries at the same time due to higher voltage than the system is designed for.

4 wheelers and other high electric output users generally, when they use two batteries do so, with the switch method you described. That way you can switch to charge one or the other battery and still have a reserve to jump start and/or to run a compressor or lights longer.

You cannot hook up two batteries at the same time, diesels do, they run 24 volts! Two batteries at the same time is 24 volts not 12. Now I am not saying you can't because there are ways to do it (parallel), but it is more beneficial to just install an aftermarket alternator. I can't remember the full name but something big green makes a good one. They are really popular with 4wheelers and were designed for ambulances or so I hear. There are also some other alternators, I don't remember the name but they have high output designed to run special welders designed for this purpose so you can fix on the trail. There are lots of aftermarket alternators available.

I don't think in your present case even with a capacitor that your alternator will be able to keep up. The inline-6 is not a high-revving engine and so you aren't generating as much current as the car is drawing, raising the rpm on the 6 won't do any good except shorten its life.


Either way aftermarket higher amp alternators would/should be more than enough power for you. If you are dimming or were to dim the lights with the aftermarket high output alternators than you have probably broken all welds in your truck and your ear drums LOL
 

Last edited by 92mnfordtrk; Dec 4, 2007 at 09:56 PM.
Reply
Old Dec 4, 2007 | 09:48 PM
  #10  
dixokai's Avatar
dixokai
Senior User
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 320
Likes: 0
From: Southeast Idaho
I have heard of some red tops that didn't last to long but were under warranty. Mine has been in my Jap Jeep for years with no signs of slowing down.

As for installing two batteries in your rig you just hook them in parallel (+ to + and - to -) and then to the starter the same as one battery. You will still need a bigger alt. though, two batteries will only delay the inevitable. The alt. needs to be able to handle the electrical load of the vehicle
 
Reply
Old Dec 4, 2007 | 09:57 PM
  #11  
dixokai's Avatar
dixokai
Senior User
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 320
Likes: 0
From: Southeast Idaho
Duel batteries will only make 24 volts if they are hooked in series. When hooked in parallel they still only have 12 volts but add in their amp rating. Diesel pick ups are 12 volts they only use two batteries because they need more cranking amps for the diesel engine. There are many vehicles with duel batteries and 12 volts. One common application for this is vehicles running winches. Because the alt. can't put out enough to run the winch the extra batt. helps to extend winch time.
 
Reply
Old Dec 4, 2007 | 10:00 PM
  #12  
Pearlwhite94's Avatar
Pearlwhite94
Thread Starter
|
Senior User
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 154
Likes: 0
Ok thanks alot!!! I think i do need a bigger alternator! But the optima is a must cause my current battery has been declared "bad".
 
Reply
Old Dec 4, 2007 | 10:15 PM
  #13  
dixokai's Avatar
dixokai
Senior User
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 320
Likes: 0
From: Southeast Idaho
LOL!! no problem. On a good note: I think you can get a bigger alt for your truck by getting one for the make and model of your truck but with all the goodies. (AC, power everything etc.) It should be a higher amp unit.

Out of curiosity, do you no how much a big sound system draws on average? Just wondering because my son wiped out his alternator with a bumping system.
 
Reply
Old Dec 4, 2007 | 10:25 PM
  #14  
92mnfordtrk's Avatar
92mnfordtrk
Senior User
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 212
Likes: 0
From: Arizona
Sorry guys didn't mean to imply all diesels are 24volt. The u.s. uses alot of 12v for our diesels except some industrial, marine, and an occacional semi. Europe, the military and most militaries of the world use alot 24 volt or sometimes more.

Here is a list a buddy of mine compiled:

24volt
Most European and Japanese heavy trucks.
Many Japanese small trucks and 4X4s.
Most off highway earthmoving machines, cranes etc.
Most military vehicles in military version, ie civvy Humvee is 12 ditto for landrovers etc.
Most large marine engines.
Rail engines.
Some large self contained agriculture equiment,eg combines.

12volt
Light cars and trucks.
Most agriculture equipment, tractors etc.
Onroad USA trucks (They may have many batteries but run them so they are all hooke up + to + and - to - so its 12 v)
Some vehicles used to have a 24v start 12v run system. This system used a series parallel switch to link the two 12v batteries in series for 24v starting, and in parallel to give 12v for normal running. (These are the ones i am used to Oldies but goodies.


I guess the bigger question you guys mabye can help with , is I have heard while running in a parallel with two 12v batteries it won't charge right and vehicle manufacterers don't recommend it, that is why they make the switch to charge and use one or use one while charging the other.

P.S. I have only used the series hookups on boats where charging doesn't always matter......you charge them regardless when you get home for a couple of hours and then stick them on a float charger so I am not sure if the above statement is correct.

P.S.S. A float charger greatly increases the life of the battery sitting for extended periods. Except Lithium Ion.
 

Last edited by 92mnfordtrk; Dec 4, 2007 at 10:53 PM.
Reply
Old Dec 4, 2007 | 10:35 PM
  #15  
Noneshere's Avatar
Noneshere
Senior User
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 128
Likes: 0
From: Florida
An awsome battery dealer is none other then WAL-MART . 3 year FREE REPLACEMENT.
Granted I've taken 2 back in five years , but I never got any flack.
Heck they never even tested them (allthough I had them tested at Auto-zone).

Just photo copy the recipt cause the original carbon copy fades.

I also run high amp draw in my truck, 3 amplafiers (totaling 3300 watts), laptop, KC reverse lights, additional exterior HD lights (front and rear), camper interior lights, and pull a 18' trailer.

I haven't upgraded my alternator yet . so I switch most of these componets on and off, reserving a charge time for the battery alone.
alittle heck-tic at times but it works.
Tonka baby....LOL
 
Reply



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:34 PM.

story-0
Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

Slideshow: Top 10 Ford truck tragedies.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-18 19:34:33


VIEW MORE
story-1
AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make

And it might be even better than that.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-18 19:26:42


VIEW MORE
story-2
Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!

Slideshow: Does lowering an F-150 Lobo RUIN the ride quality?

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-18 19:20:37


VIEW MORE
story-3
Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

Slideshow: Ford's bizarre fishing-themed Explorer concept has resurfaced after spending decades largely forgotten.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:07:46


VIEW MORE
story-4
10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

Slideshow: The 10 best Ford truck engines we miss the most.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-12 13:09:47


VIEW MORE
story-5
2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road: Better Than a Raptor R?

Slideshow: first look at the 810 hp 2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road!

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-12 12:50:07


VIEW MORE
story-6
2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package First Look: 12 Things You NEED to Know!

Slideshow: Everything You Need to Know about the 2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package!

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-07 17:51:06


VIEW MORE
story-7
10 Most Surprising 2026 Ford Truck Features!

Slideshow: 10 most surprising Ford truck options/features in 2026.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-05 11:17:22


VIEW MORE
story-8
Top 10 Ford Trucks Coming to Mecum Indy 2026

Slideshow: Here are the top 10 Fords coming to Mecum Indy 2026.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-04 13:49:49


VIEW MORE
story-9
5 Best / 5 Worst Ford Truck Wheels of All Time

Slideshow: The 5 best and 5 worst Ford truck wheels of all time

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-29 16:49:01


VIEW MORE