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Old Nov 29, 2007 | 11:50 AM
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vacuum leak pool

hey, i finally decided that i do in fact have a vacuum leak. I am running about 16psi when idling after she warms up. So, i think I will try to troubleshoot and find the leak sometime soon. I wanted to see if anyone wanted to guess where the leak is. Before you guess, I don't have the old metal vacuum reservoir anymore, someone replaced it with a nice plastic one. So, just remember that if you were going to guess a rusted out canister.
 
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Old Nov 29, 2007 | 12:18 PM
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Damn! I was going to guess that canister Just trace the vac lines back from the intake manifold and you'll be sure to find the problem
 
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Old Nov 29, 2007 | 02:59 PM
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unless my intake is leaking
 
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Old Nov 29, 2007 | 03:11 PM
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spray carb cleaner around the intake while its idling. Listen for fluctuations.
 
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Old Nov 29, 2007 | 03:33 PM
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so far neither carb cleaner nor starter fluid has shown any obvious leaks. I haven't tried the unlit propane torch yet, but maybe if I can't find it through other means.

I am planning on following Old_paint's method in this post https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/6...=intake+vacuum of just shutting off all nonessential vacuum connections and monitoring the vacuum level. I think this way will be easiest, or at least more reliable.

So, I am sure I will find the leak, but I am jsut trying to see if anyone has a guess of what I will find. There are bragging rights offered up for the winner.
 
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Old Nov 29, 2007 | 03:43 PM
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You need something like this.....




Propane and starter fluid methods are a joke...not to mention you can cause other problems.

On top of that with speed density the incoming air from the vacuum leak is matched with fuel via an increase in the injector pulse width. Low vacuum DOES NOT mean a vacuum leak with SD....MAF or carb on the other hand yes that would make more sense becuase at that point you have a lean condition and that can result in a vacuum loss. Vacuum leaks with SD = high idle due to the MAP sensor.
 
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Old Nov 29, 2007 | 04:02 PM
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so, eco, maybe I don't even have a leak? So, how do I bring my vacuum back to where it should be? I am running at 16 inches right now while idling in park. My tranny is pissed at me right now (I think because the vacuum is telling it to shift late). The truck smells a little off... lots of little things point to an unhappy vacuum. Got any recommendations as to what I should be looking at? I can't afford the smoke machine (I cna barely afford the internet connection to look at a picture of your smoke machine).
 
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Old Nov 29, 2007 | 04:13 PM
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Propane and starter fluid methods are a joke...not to mention you can cause other problems.
This method works fine for obvious leaks.
 
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Old Nov 29, 2007 | 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by eco
Low vacuum DOES NOT mean a vacuum leak with SD
So are you saying that a vacuum leak can never cause low vacuum in a speed density motor?

....MAF or carb on the other hand yes that would make more sense becuase at that point you have a lean condition and that can result in a vacuum loss.
Can you explain how a lean mix can cause a vacuum loss? Not saying you're wrong, just haven't heard this before.

Vacuum leaks with SD = high idle due to the MAP sensor.
Not sure what you're saying here either.

Are you saying that a vacuum leak in a speed density motor will cause a high idle because of the map sensor (which is true) which will lead to a lower vacuum? Because doesn't that just show that a low vacuum is because of a vacuum leak?

Or are you saying that bad MAP sensors cause a low vacuum?
 
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Old Nov 29, 2007 | 04:45 PM
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If I had a nickel for every time you guys said vacuum in this thread....
 
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Old Nov 29, 2007 | 04:51 PM
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If I had a nickel for every time you guys said vacuum in this thread....
You're as helpful as you always are.

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There's a buck and a quarter. Now go pay someone to install and remove those headers every two years.
 
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Old Nov 29, 2007 | 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by andym

There's a buck and a quarter. Now go pay someone to install and remove those headers every two years.
Are his arms and legs broken? He should make his own knuckles bleed!
 
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Old Nov 29, 2007 | 04:57 PM
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if you had a nickel...

you too could afford all of eco's diagnostic toys instead of using dental floss and chewing gum to MacGuyver your way through these problems like me....
 
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Don't forget the duct tape. I keep 6 rolls of it in the garage.
 
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Old Nov 29, 2007 | 05:02 PM
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Don't forget the duct tape. I keep 6 rolls of it in the garage.
Along with 6 of everything else.

I've seen Andy's garage, he keeps spares of every fluid, tool, part, filter, you name it... Nerd.


(I'm jealous )
 
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