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I got a set of Clifford Performance dual outlet headers for $200. Installed them myself and had someone else do the rest of the exhaust. Nothing special like chrome or heat coating. Damn CP headers won't seal completely though!!!!!
1994 Ford F150
300-6
Highly Modified and more to come!
1994 Ford F150
300-6
Highly Modified and more to come!
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Hedman Hedders !! I paid $100 for them. I installed them myself not knowing that the factory coating would burn off. LOTS OF SMOKE !!!!! They sit now with a nice coat of surface rust and look like real crapola !!!
I had to notch the frame and slide the engine over to get them to fit. If I had it to do over again, I wouldn't have made the swap.
I hope my starter never goes bad. If it does, and I have to loosed the engine again, BYE BYE HEDDERS !!!!
Chris
72 F-100 Stepside
300 cid w/ Hedman Hedders
Pacer 264P 16" wheels
I had to notch the frame and slide the engine over to get them to fit. If I had it to do over again, I wouldn't have made the swap.
I hope my starter never goes bad. If it does, and I have to loosed the engine again, BYE BYE HEDDERS !!!!
Chris
72 F-100 Stepside
300 cid w/ Hedman Hedders
Pacer 264P 16" wheels
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Hello,
Well, I bought a brand new set of Hedman's awhile back and have yet to install them along with my 4 bbl intake and 450 Holley carb. I went with the Hedman headers because the people I asked seemed to like them the best. But, I just read someone here had a problem with them. Oh well, whatever it takes, my header is going on.
Well, I bought a brand new set of Hedman's awhile back and have yet to install them along with my 4 bbl intake and 450 Holley carb. I went with the Hedman headers because the people I asked seemed to like them the best. But, I just read someone here had a problem with them. Oh well, whatever it takes, my header is going on.
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Clifford has a new one out, a 6-3-1 design that I'm going to order next paycheck. At the same time I'm going to order Jeg's starter heat wrap.
I have a series of modifications in mind, the last one being Jet Hot Coating.
I have a '91, and supposedly the header is designed for the '90-'96 F-150.
Uh huh. Right.
Eddie
I have a series of modifications in mind, the last one being Jet Hot Coating.
I have a '91, and supposedly the header is designed for the '90-'96 F-150.
Uh huh. Right.
Eddie
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hedders
Hey Eddie, did ya ever get that Clifford header, and if so how did it work out? I'm looking to order my own, but want the scoop before I mail the check.
Jim
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1993 F150 2WD
6" Pro-Comp Stage II Lift w/35's
Auburn Pro-Series Diff. w/4.30 gears
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Jim
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1993 F150 2WD
6" Pro-Comp Stage II Lift w/35's
Auburn Pro-Series Diff. w/4.30 gears
http://www.ProjectTrailDawg.com
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Paulg,
I also installed clifford dual outlet on a 95. I have a question, did you have any problems installing the smog tube into the back of the rear header, I could not get this thing to line up at all (well not without some manipulation) and the large nut that screws into the header first would not fit for nothing (some modification and there it is)?? The two screws that hold the smog crap on the back of the intake also snapped with little force applied trying to get them out. Did you have any trouble like this?
Just a thought, when I did this I noticed a small increase in driveability, yet I took the clutch fan off and added an electric fan and became real happy with the difference. Thank you for your time
I also installed clifford dual outlet on a 95. I have a question, did you have any problems installing the smog tube into the back of the rear header, I could not get this thing to line up at all (well not without some manipulation) and the large nut that screws into the header first would not fit for nothing (some modification and there it is)?? The two screws that hold the smog crap on the back of the intake also snapped with little force applied trying to get them out. Did you have any trouble like this?
Just a thought, when I did this I noticed a small increase in driveability, yet I took the clutch fan off and added an electric fan and became real happy with the difference. Thank you for your time
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Yeah stupid Clifford Performance headers! I couldn't get the EGR tubing to connect to the header either. I had to get some plumbing 3/4" threaded piping and then abunch of other crap to connect this to the EGR valve. I finally got it connected but man was it hell of a ordeal.
1994 Ford F150
300-6
Highly Modified and more to come!
1994 Ford F150
300-6
Highly Modified and more to come!
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Well at least I am not the only one. Thought I was gonna lose my mind that day. All well, good luck in the future with your truck
Forgot to ask did your headers have a bung for o2 sensors in both headers? I would think the one sensor obd-1 would be more common and they would add the second bung on demand. Who knows
Forgot to ask did your headers have a bung for o2 sensors in both headers? I would think the one sensor obd-1 would be more common and they would add the second bung on demand. Who knows
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I would almost bet they sent me the wrong one. I even called them back and they said to just plug one up. Bet the smog would have plugged in much easier if it was the right one. Well that is in the past. Kinda sucks though to go through all that trouble if it could have been prevented.
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Has anyone tried Pacesetter headers? I live in Canada and want to order all the parts at the same time from the same vendor, and Jeg's has the header, an Offy dual plane intake and a Holley 390cfm 4-bbl all for better prices than I can get elsewhere, even in Canada with the exchange rates and duties! In Alberta, we don't smog-test older vehicles so the smog fittings aren't an issue, unless they are required to make the engine run better. I am on a budget, too.
Thx folks!
Les S.
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Thx folks!
Les S.
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I installed a set of Pacesetters on my Jeep 4.0. Coated them with a high-temp coating and engine building friend get from California. Don't use high-temp paint, it's crap.
I'm happy with the headers. Good value for the $ Fit and finish are pretty good, though I took a die grinder and smoothed out the inside if the flange welds.
I'm happy with the headers. Good value for the $ Fit and finish are pretty good, though I took a die grinder and smoothed out the inside if the flange welds.
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I've decided not to do the headers; I'm just a trifle concerned about smognazi retardedness, and I'm going into stealth mode!
I'm going to use a late '70's large chamber head without air-injection in my '91 smogtruck. The air injection will be custom-tubed into ported EFI cast-iron manifolds.
The twin factory down pipes are good, mandrel-bent pieces, and they "Y" together in a precat, to which they're welded. I'm going to knock the stuffing out of that precat, so all it will be is a "Y" that looks like a precat.
Exiting the (soon to be "former") precat is a 3" diameter pipe, which leads into yet another cat, air-injected this time.
Today, I bought an air-injected, 3-way hi-flow cat from Summit--3-in. inlet/3-in. outlet. I'm going to replace that factory second cat with this new piece, which legally does everything Ford's big ol' huge massive POS does, then run 3" pipe to the existing 3" Gibson catback.
Betcha it works, betcha the smog retards never pick up on it.
Not as sexy as headers, though.
Eddie
I'm going to use a late '70's large chamber head without air-injection in my '91 smogtruck. The air injection will be custom-tubed into ported EFI cast-iron manifolds.
The twin factory down pipes are good, mandrel-bent pieces, and they "Y" together in a precat, to which they're welded. I'm going to knock the stuffing out of that precat, so all it will be is a "Y" that looks like a precat.
Exiting the (soon to be "former") precat is a 3" diameter pipe, which leads into yet another cat, air-injected this time.
Today, I bought an air-injected, 3-way hi-flow cat from Summit--3-in. inlet/3-in. outlet. I'm going to replace that factory second cat with this new piece, which legally does everything Ford's big ol' huge massive POS does, then run 3" pipe to the existing 3" Gibson catback.
Betcha it works, betcha the smog retards never pick up on it.
Not as sexy as headers, though.
Eddie
