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Nov 29, 2007 | 07:44 PM

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AndysFords

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You don't have to tell me about all this, I know ether is not good for the engine, I am a diesel mechanic, not an idiot. I also know all about the not swiching back, and the injection pump. The only thing I was wondering about was adding propane to a non turbo engine, which some people say is fine and some say it only works on a non turbo engine.

Dec 23, 2007 | 01:12 PM

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I used a home made set up on a non turbo 7.3 . I used the nozzel from a 30,000 btu bullet heater. I was able to inject both water mist and propane at the same time. If I was running down the road at 50 mph and opened the valve ,the truck would start gaining speed and you would have to back off the throttle to maintain 50 mph. What was happening was instead of running on 100% diesel I would be running on maybe 75% diesel and 25% pane. This was a couple of years ago and no records were made. With diesel at $3.50 a gallon you should save a little $$ running some pane and get a little more power. I used it on 2 different trucks but 1 developed a bad knock. I now run a 94 idi turbo but have not installed it on this truck. If I do I would just use propane

Dec 24, 2007 | 05:46 PM

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Ok....Then why do MANY ForkLift Companies have the opition to FLIP back and forth? Since it is so bad?

Dec 25, 2007 | 09:03 PM

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Ok....Then why do MANY ForkLift Companies have the opition to FLIP back and forth? Since it is so bad?

Well, if you want to drive a forklift---------

Forklifts (although we all know they all push the limits of reliability by making thousands of HP

) might compromise on their design to deal with the differing requirements of the various fuels used.

Like a standard gasoline engine that has a compression ratio in the 9:1 ratio area, but a true alcohol engine, "designed to maximize the energy output of the octane rating of ethanol" engine would be designed with a ratio in the 14:1 ratio area and swapping back to regular gasoline would cause durability issues.

Dec 25, 2007 | 09:40 PM

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Well, if you want to drive a forklift---------

Forklifts (although we all know they all push the limits of reliability by making thousands of HP

HUH? I hope you are joking?

Dec 26, 2007 | 12:52 AM

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HUH? I hope you are joking?

HUH? It is true, ethanol wants a higher compression ratio to burn effeciently, that is why flex fuel vehicles get worse mileage running on ethanol.

Dec 26, 2007 | 05:20 AM

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OUTPLAYN

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HUH? It is true, ethanol wants a higher compression ratio to burn effeciently, that is why flex fuel vehicles get worse mileage running on ethanol.

I was asking for him to explain his response to the FORK LIFTS comment I made

Not about FLEX FUELS in cars & Trucks

Dec 27, 2007 | 02:13 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OUTPLAYN

I was asking for him to explain his response to the FORK LIFTS comment I made.
Not about FLEX FUELS in cars & Trucks

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Originally Posted by archangel

Well, if you want to drive a forklift---------

Well, yes, this was a joke

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Originally Posted by archangel

Forklifts (although we all know they all push the limits of reliability by making thousands of HP

) might compromise on their design to deal with the differing requirements of the various fuels used.

And the part about the "limits of reliability" was also a joke, but the rest of it was serious.

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Originally Posted by archangel

Like a standard gasoline engine that has a compression ratio in the 9:1 ratio area, but a true alcohol engine, "designed to maximize the energy output of the octane rating of ethanol" engine would be designed with a ratio in the 14:1 ratio area and swapping back to regular gasoline would cause durability issues.

This was a serious comparison and is applicable for an example as forklifts are industrial vehicles and are built for reliability and some are built for fuel flexibility and that "flexibility" includes compromises.