But with the 10-12K discounts dodge has to put on the trucks to sell them it is about even.

 

The Titans XE CC rebate is $4250.00 (it's the same on SE and LE's) and + the dealer discounts, brings them down to $18,995...so that nullify's the 12 grand off the Mega Cab, if that Dodge sales promotion is still running. The reason Dodge is selling them cheap, is because they over produced 2005/2006/2007 Ram pickups, and at one time had over 100,000 stored on storage lots all over greater Detroit. Right now, Dodge is laying off workers, because 2008 Ram production is on a short schedule. Even with "Mega" discounts, sales have been tepid.

 

Not tryin to start crap just IMO my one friend has an 05 150 Which i really like the interior aside from the 1980 style guages. I really dislike the dodge interiors all around. My other friend had an 05 350 v-10. He got rid of it because fuel was to much so he test drove my friends truck and said the only thing he didn't like was the interior so he went and bought an 06 1500 dodge between the two the dodges interior sucks the center dash juts out like an astro van's dog house and his seat is shot already. This isn't a ford dodge bash i don't like the 150's drivetrain and the dodge shifts firmer all i'm sayin is contrary to all this discussion i like the 150 interior better. Just my opinion guys Later

 

You can't buy a Dodge Ram with a center console shift/bucket seat combination.

Dodge is the only pickup that doesn't offer this setup.

 

meh the interior is like my moms caravan dodge is poop and will be out of the big 3 soon enough

 

Boy I agree with more here than disagree. What gets me is Ford builds these tough trucks so 90% of them can haul kids to WalMart. I don't know about Walmarts back east but on the west coast you can get into any of there parking lots on a bicycle, you don't need a tough truck. Now a fast truck is different. You need to get to the parking space first.

 

All we have are dodge 2500 (crew cab, hemi 4x4,sb) at work and yeah they're fast... but don't last. every 3 years the take them out of commission. a few examples below
1. One trucks windshield wipers are possessed. sometimes works sometimes doesn't etc.
2. Ones blinkers doesn't work or gets reversed or works with the brakes
3. ones horn goes off (sometimes) when blinkers go on
4. all of them have had transmission problems (nobody has the brand new one yet)

Now for comparison,
- Our 15 yr old international 18 wheeler is still hard at it
- International delivery trucks are still at it
- 2000 Ford f-550, besides toasting A/C ( i think it's spinning them to fast) is 100%

 

Most of those are pretty minor issues. I don't think that Ford has all that much reliability over Dodge now. For example one of our 04 6.0 ambulances is on its forth set of head gaskets alone in 55K miles. Not even mentioning, new heads, turbo, EGR, ect, ect,..... or the other 04.

I don't think any of the newer trucks are up to real work anymore without pretty major failures (especially the diesels of all the brands). The exception for me is the 08 Superduty. That truck just feels solid.

Mike

 

I don;t know about you, but with all the idiots on the road... i want to be able to give them all the warning in the world. (blinkers etc) and with the windshield wipers and all that crap. well thats just plain out ridiculous, not to mention the safety standpoint

 

I'll give you that it's pretty rediculous, but should be pretty easy fixes for the most part. Plus none of that minor stuff stops the truck from being useful.

If we want to split hairs, the R front turn signal on the 08 didn't work for a while, but we got it fixed. To be honest, hardly anybody actually pays attention to signals or uses them anymore.

But hey, how rediculous is it that my power locks don't work anymore in my F150? It's not like 2000 was the first year for them.

Plus, your comparison trucks are in a totally different class. Medium and Heavy duty. Up to 1 ton is still light duty, and I'd even put the 450 more in the light duty side compared to most medium duty trucks.

Mike

 

yeah, i know... still just aggravating thinkin about it. and on the same note, our 250's power locks were starting to wear out on us a few years back

 

I would have to agree here. I like my Ford truck, But I have owned 3 forde vehicles, and I had to repair all 3 of them more than the Pontiac and Dodge I also own. I bought my Super duty new, and It has had the ball joints replaced, fuel pump sending unit, brake rotors replaced already, and I just turned 23K miles on the odometer.

My 76 Pontiac GP was by far the most reliable car I owned. I bought the car when it was 22 years old, had 100K on the odometer and all I had to fix on it was a blown brake line in the 2 years of daily driving which I used it.

My Dodge wasn't quite as good, but is till my favorite car which I own.

 

I have had my truck for over a year now (1993 F150 the one in sig) and its been fine except for regular mainteince never a day it hasnt started or left me stranded