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Nov 17, 2007 | 02:28 PM

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Casting Numbers
1. Intake manifold - C7TE9425G (also 7M15) Cannot find a cross reference # C4TZ-9424-H / 1964/72 330 M/D & 361

2. Left Exhaust manifold - C8AE9431B = C8AZ-9431-B Fits: 1968/71 390 LTD & 1968 T/B; 1968 LTD 428; 1969/70 428 P/C = I did this earlier

3. Right Exhaust manifold - C5TE9430C = C5TZ-9430-A Fits 1965/67 F100/350 = 352 = Did this too.

4. Right Front side of block just below head - C7ME

5. Left Front of block beside waterpump - 47 & 352

6. No numbers on Vibration Dampner just the word FoMoCo 6 5/8"

7. Left Rear of Block - 29 and 352

8. Stamped number on rear of left head - 329849 (see photo in "390 or Not" at link in my last reply
I pulled valve cover and still no Casting number

9. Timing Cover - C7TE 6059 B

10. Flywheel Info - C4TE 6380 K = C4TZ-6375-E / 1964/72 330 M/D / 188 Tooth Ring Gear / 14 1/8" Bolt Circle / 15" Diameter
15" DIA NOT COUNTING RING GEAR
13" cLUTCH
6 X 7/16" Bolts on 4 1/4" BC
2 1/2" Pilot Dia.

11. Distributor Info - Autolite C7AF 12127 A = C7AZ-12127-A 1967 Galaxie/LTD/Fairlane 390 2V - 3 speed M/T
7L28

Hope this helps

Hope this helps, too.

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Nov 17, 2007 | 06:27 PM

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Now we got it nailed. I dropped the pan and the crank is a 2U. I also used a inside caliper and measured the bore. It is 4.06 which is 4.05" +.010 over bore. The stroke is 3.75" Voila it's a 390! LOL By the way Idid a lot of scraping and found a head number. It is C8AE H

Now I know and knowing is half the battle. Thanks to all for the info!

Nov 17, 2007 | 06:29 PM

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Now we got it nailed. I dropped the pan and the crank is a 2U. I also used a inside caliper and measured the bore. It is 4.06 which is 4.05" +.010 over bore. The stroke is 3.75" Voila it's a 390! LOL By the way Idid a lot of scraping and found a head number. It is C8AE H

Now I know and knowing is half the battle. Thanks to all for the info!

Nov 17, 2007 | 07:49 PM

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Nice! Glad it worked out for ya.

Nov 18, 2007 | 04:21 AM

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2U = C6AZ-6303-A .. Crankshaft ~ 1966/71 390: Galaxie, Torino & Torino GT; Mustang, T-Bird 2/4V / 1968/72 390 F100/350

C8AE-H, cast in 1968. The Ford P&S finished bare block from this casting number is: C8AZ-6010-C, and could be used 1965/71 390's. Another finished bare block from this casting was used for 428's.
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It may be a 390, but its flywheel and intake manifold are 330 M/D.

One exhaust manifold is 352 only, the other is 352/360/390.

The dizzy is from a 67 Galaxie.

I still can't find the engineering cross reference number for the timing cover, but I suspect it's off a 330 M/D.

The same FE timing cover was used from 1958 thru 1976. It's different than the one used on a 1964/78 FT engine.

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Nov 18, 2007 | 07:11 AM

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C8AE-H heads were produced from late 1967 to late 1971. It's nothing but the std FE head used on all std production FE motors, 360, 390, 428 and Marine 427's.

Nov 18, 2007 | 07:33 AM

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I've never seen them on 427 marine engines. What years were they used? I've only seen the C7TE-A and C7JE-A heads on them. And those are the same as the C6AE-R heads. Last 427 marine I tore down was a 68 and had the JE heads on it.

Nov 18, 2007 | 08:06 AM

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Hang on I do remember a 68 marine head. I don't remember the entire number but C8--6090-J. I don;t know if they were a C8WE, C8AE or C8JE but they appeared to be the same J heads from the Cougars (C8WE-6090-J) which later evolved into the C8OE-N CJ heads. Anyhoo in my cases these were all marine lowrisers and didn't have the lowered ex ports like the C8-H heads. It's been a few years sicne I've found one. But I still search the boatyards on the coast looking for them. I've found them in Chris Crafts, Hatteras and Trojans. Lots of the marine parts had a C7TE numbers and looked like truck/industrial parts. I never really looked into it much as the heads and shortblocks were all I was after.

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Nov 18, 2007 | 08:52 AM

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I thru that in figuring they'd be used on the base marine 427's, being that they used std 390 parts. Seems like I've seen a few with em on ebay listings for these.