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Old Nov 14, 2007 | 07:15 AM
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Tuners and MPG

Is anyone using a tuner to get better MPG's. If so which one are you using and what kind of mileage pick ups are you seeing.

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Old Nov 14, 2007 | 07:01 PM
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Just got the edge evolution today, it says on its average mpg over 15, which I have never gotten close to. I will keep you updated on this.
 
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Old Nov 14, 2007 | 07:32 PM
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I gained about 1-1.5 using my edge on tune 2. Some say that tune 3 will give you even better but you need to put the expensive stuff in the tank.
 
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Old Nov 14, 2007 | 07:40 PM
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I've read tune 2 is bad on your truck over long periods of time, is that true?
 
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Old Nov 14, 2007 | 08:01 PM
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I've read tune 2 is bad on your truck over long periods of time, is that true?
I have not heard that. Why?
 
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Old Nov 14, 2007 | 08:58 PM
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I'm also curious about this subject.... If I get a 1 mpg increase it won't take long to pay its self off with the way gas prices are going!
 
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Old Nov 14, 2007 | 10:25 PM
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Thanks for the replys. I'll check out the edge. I currently have a Predator on my F250 and it went from 14 to 16 around town and from 18 to 21avg on the highway w/no load.

I know Diesels are completely different story altogether....

has anyone tried the Predator for their gassers.

I just picked up my Crew Cab Fx4. This thing is sweet and rides like a cadillac compared to my f250. I'll be doing some gas mileage checks on it over the next couple of weeks to see where I'm at.

Thanks!
 
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Old Nov 15, 2007 | 07:10 AM
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Originally Posted by onebadf250
Thanks for the replys. I'll check out the edge. I currently have a Predator on my F250 and it went from 14 to 16 around town and from 18 to 21avg on the highway w/no load.

I know Diesels are completely different story altogether....

has anyone tried the Predator for their gassers.

I just picked up my Crew Cab Fx4. This thing is sweet and rides like a cadillac compared to my f250. I'll be doing some gas mileage checks on it over the next couple of weeks to see where I'm at.

Thanks!
I have had a Predator for a while and used it on two different trucks (check out my gallery). Because I have driven them in such varying conditions I cannot say for certain that I got increased fuel economy with either truck.

There is no question that using a tuner in conjunction with wideband sensors on a dyno it is possible to lean out the fuel mixture from stock. How much of a gain this might create is a moot point as you will likely drive your truck differently due to the pure joy of the increased power level. Of course the cost of the dyno tune needs to be calculated in as well. To lean it out without the sensors would be foolhardy.

Right now I am using my truck, which would weigh in at right around 7000 pounds, to deliver pizzas. Even under those less than ideal conditions, and recognizing that I love the sound of the Magnaflow under full throttle, I get no worse than 10 mpg with my dyno tuned custom program (228 rwhp with 292 ft/lb torque).

BTW the biggest influence that I have seen on fuel economy was switching tires. My current Cooper Discoverer ST's worsened the fuel economy about 20% as compared to the BFG Rugged Trails that the truck came with.
 

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Old Nov 15, 2007 | 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by bigdavewilson

There is no question that using a tuner in conjunction with wideband sensors on a dyno it is possible to lean out the fuel mixture from stock. How much of a gain this might create is a moot point as you will likely drive your truck differently due to the pure joy of the increased power level. Of course the cost of the dyno tune needs to be calculated in as well. To lean it out without the sensors would be foolhardy.
Good point. You could potentially get better mileage, but you could also fall victim to leadfoot syndrome (i know i did)

You can check out our shop's prices and customer reviews for tuners here: http://motorhaven.autoanything.com/category_rewritten.aspx?silo_name=performance-chips&c_id=50211&page_id=1&
 
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Old Nov 16, 2007 | 05:04 PM
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I have not heard that. Why?
I'm not sure something about the shifting wears the transmission out. I hope this is not true I used it on towing today and I like it. Gas mileage may go by the wayside with my leadfoot and newfound power!!
 
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Old Nov 16, 2007 | 05:28 PM
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I'm not sure something about the shifting wears the transmission out. I hope this is not true I used it on towing today and I like it. Gas mileage may go by the wayside with my leadfoot and newfound power!!
I have used it to tow since I got it, no problems...tune 2 is the "towing tune". I think most of the tuners adjust shift points.
 
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Old Nov 16, 2007 | 05:34 PM
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We just had a Superchips rep. come over and give us an info session about their products. Just make sure you have your tuner set for the "towing tune" when you are towing something. I know it sounds like common sense, but just a heads up.
 
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Old Nov 16, 2007 | 05:44 PM
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I'm not sure something about the shifting wears the transmission out. I hope this is not true I used it on towing today and I like it. Gas mileage may go by the wayside with my leadfoot and newfound power!!
The firmer shifts are better for the tranny. Ask any transmission guy.
 
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Tune 3 is for hot-rodding & shouldn't be used to often. Tune 2 is great for towing & the Shifts are firmer. MPG improved when installed but I also installed a cat-back at the same time, now that the EDGE is uninstalled, I'll keep a eye on MPG to see which one added the increase.
My EGDE is 4sale, the Wife just doesn't care for the firmer shifts. I only used the EDGE once last July & after I sell the unit, I Must get a additional Aux Transmission Cooler installed along with a trans temp guage. I have the EDGE listed in the Classiflied Section.
 

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Old Nov 17, 2007 | 02:36 AM
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Tune 3 is for hot-rodding & shouldn't be used to often. Tune 2 is great for towing & the Shifts are firmer. MPG improved when installed but I also installed a cat-back at the same time, now that the EDGE is uninstalled, I'll keep a eye on MPG to see which one added the increase.
My EGDE is 4sale, the Wife just doesn't care for the firmer shifts. I only used the EDGE once last July & after I sell the unit, I Must get a additional Aux Transmission Cooler installed along with a trans temp guage. I have the EDGE listed in the Classiflied Section.
Maybe without realizing it you just answered the question about why, if firmer shifts are better for the tranny, the factory doesn't set up all trucks that way. The obvious answer is that for many (or maybe even most) drivers a truck is just a big car that can carry stuff in the back, or get through more mud or increase our feeling of safety or __________________ (personal reason here). Thank goodness we do have the option of aftermarket devices like tuners to give us that choice. I for one will never again have a truck without having a tuner for it which is why I bought an F150 HD instead of a Super Duty. I kind of laugh at people who will spend big dollars on lift kits or cat backs or CAI's or box liners or mud flaps or grill inserts and then balk at getting a tuner. I see that the Diablosport Predator is now readily available for $320 (I paid $550 for mine and have never regretted the expense for one second). When one thinks of the fact that in addition to tuning the engine it can also read and clear codes, eliminate the rpm and speed limiters, correct the speedometer for different tire sizes and change the shift characteristics that is pretty good bang for the buck.

Again that is one of the big reasons that manual shift transmissions are no longer available in all trucks. There are literally thousands of drivers, both male and female, who have never driven a standard (to this day the best shifter I have ever ridden with was a girlfriend in her Volkswagen Scirocco, man could she drive that thing, frequently scared my pants off in heavy traffic) and consequently have no need or desire for one.
 
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