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Old Nov 13, 2007 | 10:14 AM
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No Heat OR A/C

My truck vents are just blowing out ambient air.

It doesn't matter if I turn the temp **** to the coldest setting or the hottest setting, the temp does not change. The air coming through the vents is whatever the temp is outside the truck.

I do not believe it's a problem with the vacuum pump, as I can choose which vents activate; defrost, panel, foot. I have vacuum at the white line under the glove box and I can see the blend door opening and closing, so nothing is stuck there.
No climate control system mods and both heater hose are hot to the touch.

After first experiencing the problem yesterday, there was a time when everything was working fine. The A/C was blowing ice cold and when I tried the heat it got hot quickly. That didn't last long though.

I'm off to use the search function, but any input is appreciated.
 
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Old Nov 13, 2007 | 10:41 AM
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From your description, it sure sounds as though the heater core or input line has become plugged. Bring the truck up to operating temperature and check the lines going to the heater core (one will be bringing the hot water to the core and the other will be bringing the water back to the engine). With the heater on full hot and the fan on, the return line should be significantly cooler than the input line. If they are about the same temperature work back towards the engine on the heater core input line and find where the temperature gets much hotter...that is the place where the blockage is occurring. PM me if you want the repair manual diagnosis...
 
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Old Nov 13, 2007 | 11:04 AM
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i'm going to watch this thread because this is almost exactly what im experiencing. the a/c works great but no heat at all. one thing i have but havent installed is the 203* stat and billet housing.
 
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Old Nov 13, 2007 | 11:57 AM
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I am assuming that the coolant, in both your vehicles, is full in the degas bottle...correct? If the coolant level is low, it might lead to this same symptom.
 
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Old Nov 13, 2007 | 12:02 PM
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mines full, but i do need to check to see if my lines from my heater core are working properly as you stated in post no. 2.
 
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Old Nov 13, 2007 | 12:17 PM
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coolant is good.

I just went outside to run the heat and feel the hoses. This time the climate control worked as it should. As the truck came up to temp the cabin got warmer. In feeling the hoses there was a slight temperature difference. Not night and day but certainly a few degrees by feel. IIRC, the hose on the right side of the engine was a little warmer than the hose going to the center of the block.

When I switched to A/C the cabin got cold and the temperature between the hoses became drastic with the one hose barely warm but the other very hot.

That all sounds as it should, doesn't it?
 
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Old Nov 13, 2007 | 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by firemediceric
coolant is good.

I just went outside to run the heat and feel the hoses.

When I switched to A/C the cabin got cold and the temperature between the hoses became drastic with the one hose barely warm but the other very hot.

That all sounds as it should, doesn't it?
The heater core is a coiled loop, the temperature of the return should only be slighlty lower than the input temperature. Are you sure there is not a heater core cut off valve plumbed into those lines? It would take a mighty strong blast of cold air to cool of a coil of 196* coolant. me thinks you've got something stopped up.
 
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Old Nov 13, 2007 | 03:59 PM
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Mine did this one time, I had no heat, and then all of a sudden 20 minutes later it started blowing out hot air, now it works fine.
 
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Old Nov 13, 2007 | 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by bdrummonds
The heater core is a coiled loop, the temperature of the return should only be slighlty lower than the input temperature. Are you sure there is not a heater core cut off valve plumbed into those lines? It would take a mighty strong blast of cold air to cool of a coil of 196* coolant. me thinks you've got something stopped up.
If it were an obstruction, I wouldn't think that the problem would be as intermittant as it has been yesterday and today.

From other reading that I have been doing, I am beging to think it's a problem with the white servo behind the glove box.
 
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Old Nov 14, 2007 | 08:06 AM
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what is the white servo??
 
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Old Nov 14, 2007 | 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by firemediceric
If it were an obstruction, I wouldn't think that the problem would be as intermittant as it has been yesterday and today.

From other reading that I have been doing, I am beging to think it's a problem with the white servo behind the glove box.
I do not think any of the vacuum fittings behind the glovebox has anything to do with the flow of water (the water is in the core and flowing at all times...that is why some of us have put a shutoff valve in the heater hose line, so we have colder ac and cooler vent air)...now that you mention it, perhaps follow out the connections from the temperature switch on the dash and make sure everything is still hooked up correctly and see if the temperature switch is working correctly.

ON Edit: I just went to check out the diagnosis in the manual...here is the heater/ac diagram. It would appear to me that if part #4 (temperature blend door) was stuck open, the air would travel over the air conditoner core (#5), but not over the heater core (#11)...thus no heat. Now, if for some reason the door came unstuck, heat would flow. Check fuse #24 (10 amp)...if it is blown, replace...if it isn't blown I'm now putting my money on the electronic blend door actuator to be the fault.
 
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Old Nov 14, 2007 | 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by nlemerise
I'm now putting my money on the electronic blend door actuator to be the fault.
I think what you're referring to as the "electronic blend door actuator" is the same thing as the "white servo behind the glove box" that my other reading is pointing to.
 
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Old Nov 14, 2007 | 11:55 AM
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how can you check to see if your door beld is stuck open?
 
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Old Nov 14, 2007 | 01:25 PM
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I think what you're referring to as the "electronic blend door actuator" is the same thing as the "white servo behind the glove box" that my other reading is pointing to.
I don't think so (when I think of servo, I think of the vacuum control motor (#9)...here is a picture of the electronic blend door actuator. Part #2.
 
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Old Nov 14, 2007 | 10:03 PM
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What I'm talking about is the part labled as #2, white box sitting horizontally with a plug attached to it.

I can see part #1 and #9 moving when they should as I turn the dial.
 
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