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Old Nov 9, 2007 | 08:25 PM
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Leaking oil

I added a picture to my gallery, if someone wouldn't mind taking a look, of a leak. The picture was taken up inside the passenger side wheel well just above the exhaust manifold. I've been having a problem towing a 4500lb trailer, the truck lacks power after the engine fan comes on.

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Old Nov 10, 2007 | 05:04 AM
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Looks like a leaky glow plug connector. Easy fix, if so. The tech can use UV dye to confirm the source of the leak. Mine had the same thing on driver's side. First they tried a new o-ring on the leaking connector but that didn't work so they replaced the whole buss bar and that fixed it.

I don't think the leak is related to your lack of power.
 
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Old Nov 10, 2007 | 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by moebdick
Looks like a leaky glow plug connector. Easy fix, if so. The tech can use UV dye to confirm the source of the leak. Mine had the same thing on driver's side. First they tried a new o-ring on the leaking connector but that didn't work so they replaced the whole buss bar and that fixed it.

I don't think the leak is related to your lack of power.
I was thinking the leak had something to do with the head gasket. I have taken it to the dealer and they said oil cooler is fine. I had the dealer flush the engine coolant and service the tranny. The EGR cooler was replace last month, the turbo was cleaned last week. I think I will take it to another dealer in town. I find it quite odd that I can only pull a 4500lb trailer 40mph up a hill when a Duramax passes me with a 5th wheel considerably faster. When I am not pulling a trailer it runs like a champ. There has to be a Diesel Tech in town that knows why I am over heating and losing power.
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Old Nov 10, 2007 | 11:07 AM
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Can't rule out a head gasket, but it looks like it's coming from above that. Could even be more than one source. The dye test will tell for sure.

The lack of power could be a fuel system issue. I would check the fuel system pronto since low fuel pressure can damage injectors quick.
 
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Old Nov 10, 2007 | 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by jmaskew
I was thinking the leak had something to do with the head gasket. I have taken it to the dealer and they said oil cooler is fine. I had the dealer flush the engine coolant and service the tranny. The EGR cooler was replace last month, the turbo was cleaned last week. I think I will take it to another dealer in town. I find it quite odd that I can only pull a 4500lb trailer 40mph up a hill when a Duramax passes me with a 5th wheel considerably faster. When I am not pulling a trailer it runs like a champ. There has to be a Diesel Tech in town that knows why I am over heating and losing power.
Thank you for the reply post.
Lack of power do to engine overheating could be do to a bad EOT sensor or improperly working Visconic Fan Clutch.
 
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Old Nov 10, 2007 | 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by moebdick
Can't rule out a head gasket, but it looks like it's coming from above that. Could even be more than one source. The dye test will tell for sure.

The lack of power could be a fuel system issue. I would check the fuel system pronto since low fuel pressure can damage injectors quick.
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Lack of power do to engine overheating could be do to a bad EOT sensor or improperly working Visconic Fan Clutch.
Thank you guy's for your replies, I want as much ammo as I can get when I go back to the dealer. They just want to look for codes but sometimes I think good old fashion knowledge works wonders. When my EGR cooler failed there was quite a bit of engine oil coming out of the tail pipe. Is this normal when the EGR cooler blows? The service writer at the dealership told me the egr cooler is were everything (water and oil) comes together???? I don't know much about the whole egr system since I'm new to the 6.0's, but it's my understanding that engine coolant passes through the egr cooler to cool the exhaust gasses.... where does engine oil come into play? When the egr cooler blew the dummy temp gauge shot from the half way mark up to around 3/4. I just need to get some more ideas so they don't clean the turbo again or the egr valve and send me on my way after another $100. Thanks again for all your help.
 
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Old Dec 23, 2007 | 06:43 PM
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Since I started this thread I have had my head gaskets replaced but the oil leak is still there. This afternoon I started up the truck and looked at the exhaust manifold with a flashlight and noticed oil bubbling from it. I checked both bolts from where it was bubbling and they were a little loose so I tightened them. It is still bubbling a little. Is it normal for oil to leak like that from a leaky exhaust manifold? Thank you in advance!
 
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Old Dec 23, 2007 | 08:54 PM
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I would look real hard at the rocker arm covers, to see if oil is running down on to your manifolds. The service advisor needs some schooling if he thinks the egr cooler is where oil and water meet?? Are you sure you did not see water in your tail pipe and not oil when the egr cooler went bad....
 
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Old Dec 23, 2007 | 09:10 PM
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Originally Posted by TreeTech
I would look real hard at the rocker arm covers, to see if oil is running down on to your manifolds. The service advisor needs some schooling if he thinks the egr cooler is where oil and water meet?? Are you sure you did not see water in your tail pipe and not oil when the egr cooler went bad....
Thank you for the reply. It was definitley oil in the tail pipe when the egr cooler blew. I ran my finger in the pipe and it was covered in oil. I eventually took my truck to another dealer in town and they replaced the Oil Cooler, degauss bottle and the head gaskets. I checked the valve covers and they are dry.. thats where I thought it was leaking at first. If you look at the photo, you can see the oil leaking right at the exhaust manifold. When the engine is running you can see little oil bubbles coming out where the manifold meets the block. There isn't very much. Oil is also leaking underneath at the same spot. Thanks again for the reply.
 
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Old Dec 24, 2007 | 07:21 AM
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You never mentioned whether or not the dealer ran a UV dye test. Did they do one? If so what did it reveal?
 
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Old Dec 24, 2007 | 07:40 AM
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Originally Posted by moebdick
You never mentioned whether or not the dealer ran a UV dye test. Did they do one? If so what did it reveal?
No they didn't do a dye test. When you replied earlier to this thread you mentioned a leaky glow plug connector. What do you mean? I thought the connector was just wires. The connector right above the leak has a flimsy connection and if you run your finger on it you will get oil on your finger. I'm just trying to see if this is a simple fix that I can do. I don't want to spend another $100 if I don't have to. Thank you for replying!
 
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Old Dec 24, 2007 | 08:02 AM
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The glow plug connectors have o-rings that are supposed to prevent oil from leaking out where they pass through the hole in the head. If the o-ring does its job, the connector and the surrounding area should be dry. If it doesn't, oil can leak out and will wet the connector and then drip down on the exhaust manifold bolts below it.

Here's a picture of mine when it was leaking:


This leak was verified using UV dye in the oil. THe dealer then tried replacing just the o-ring, but when that didn't work they ended up replacing the entire buss bar (all four connectors).

It sounds like your glow plug connector may be leaking.
 
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Old Dec 24, 2007 | 08:20 AM
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Originally Posted by moebdick
The glow plug connectors have o-rings that are supposed to prevent oil from leaking out where they pass through the hole in the head. If the o-ring does its job, the connector and the surrounding area should be dry. If it doesn't, oil can leak out and will wet the connector and then drip down on the exhaust manifold bolts below it.

Here's a picture of mine when it was leaking:


This leak was verified using UV dye in the oil. THe dealer then tried replacing just the o-ring, but when that didn't work they ended up replacing the entire buss bar (all four connectors).

It sounds like your glow plug connector may be leaking.
I think you are right. I will spray degreaser on it when I get home and clean it then I will see if oil bubbles out. I actually cleaned it a couple of weeks ago and it has been dry around the exhaust manifold until yesterday. Is this something I could fix or would I have to take it to the dealer? Thank you for the reply and the great picture.
 
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Old Dec 24, 2007 | 08:30 AM
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I've never done it, but it's probably not too hard to replace the buss bar yourself. Maybe someone who's done it on this forum will confirm. Not sure how much the part is, but if it was anywhere close to the deductible, I would just let the dealer do it. The main thing is to be sure that the connector is what is leaking first. Otherwise you might be fixing the wrong thing.
 
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Old Dec 24, 2007 | 08:41 AM
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Moebdick, do you know what the torque value is for the bolts on the exhaust manifold?
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