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Old Nov 3, 2007 | 12:20 PM
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Tranny Identification

Okay I've got a CD shop manual for my '64 and in the transmissions section there are three different types that you can click on and open to show the info for each. There's a light duty, medium duty, and heavy duty 3-speed tranny manual.

I'm trying to figure out which one I have. I've opened each manual, and the overall diagrams of the transmission don't match what I see under my truck. For example, I've got a super long bearing retainer tunnel piece bolted onto the end of my transmission. (see pic) Yet I can't find anything similar to this in the manual. And all three types look the same from the outside.

I know that I have one of these transmissions though because its the original setup with the 292...



Maybe some number on the tranny will ID it? Any help appreciated.
 
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Old Nov 3, 2007 | 07:50 PM
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That looks like a later model transmission. The place for a mount is kind of a giveaway to that.

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Old Nov 3, 2007 | 08:28 PM
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Yeah I thought of that but besides that "super long tunnel" piece, the transmission itself looks IDENTICAL to all the types shown in the manual.
 
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Old Nov 3, 2007 | 10:27 PM
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Look for a tag or a cast "tag" on the passenger side of the trans near the front. It looks like a passenger car trans. The only way to tell if LD, MD, or HD is from the tag numbers or letters or from disassembly.
 
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Old Nov 3, 2007 | 11:30 PM
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See if there is any numbers stamped on that tail shaft.


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Old Nov 4, 2007 | 08:09 AM
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Only two 3 speed transmissions were offered on 1964 F100/350 292's. The most common is the Ford 3.03 all syncro transmission. The other 3 speed was the Medium Duty Warner T-89. Only the P Series Parcel Deliveries used a H/D 3 speed transmission. Ford also offered a Warner 3 speed with overdrive.

Ford 3.03 transmission: The trucks with a 114" wheelbase used a shorter extension housing (tailshaft housing) than a truck with a 128" wheelbase. Ford doesn't list the length of the housing, but they do list the length of the transmission output shaft (tailshaft).

Ford 3.03 all syncro transmission

114" wheelbase used a 15.03" output shaft

128" wheelbase used a 27.50" output shaft.

There was no variation on the Warner transmissions output shaft or extension housing. The output shaft was: 15.83 inches long. Instead the difference in length was made up by the driveshaft/coupling shaft.

Therefore, judging from the length of the housing, I believe you have a 3.03 Ford all syncro transmission of unknown origin. The trans was used from 1963 thru the late 1990's on trucks, and from 1963 thru approx 1981 on cars. List all numbers found on the case. The tag, if still there, will be held on by one bolt at the rear of the trans where the extension housing bolts on.

BTW: some transmission extension housings will have the place for the cars transmission mount. This is because the some of the cars used the same housing as the trucks did.

The all syncro trans has one fault, only one brass blocker ring was used on first gear syncro, so if you can't shift into 1st gear without it grinding, it's a worn syncro blocker ring that's the cause.

IS it a car trans? The 3.03 trans used in cars and trucks is basically the same, with differences internally of heavier duty gears, bearings, etc.
 

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