Sleeping Pilots
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Sleeping Pilots
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Oh, come on....who hasn't dozed off while on a long, nighttime cross-country flight? GPS, autopilot, comfy leather seats, noise-cancelling headsets - my plane used to practically sing me to sleep.
Okay, I never fell asleep but I always had a Mountain Dew and some chocolate in my flying bag just in case.
Oh, come on....who hasn't dozed off while on a long, nighttime cross-country flight? GPS, autopilot, comfy leather seats, noise-cancelling headsets - my plane used to practically sing me to sleep.
Okay, I never fell asleep but I always had a Mountain Dew and some chocolate in my flying bag just in case.
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i had a pilot on one flight come and lay across a row of seats for a nap once, the copilot was flying, they switched later on but both were awake for the landing. and no, it was not a US airline or even western one.
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I agree. With the automation of AC today it is not that big of a deal. The only problem I can see is communication with the ground, but I bet they know how long it is between points and seek quick naps.
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At least one pilot capable of reacting in an emergency should be awake at all times.
Other than that - I see no problems.
You really do want the flight crew to be at the top of their game on approach.
May I suggest that ESPRESSO be available to the front cabin
Other than that - I see no problems.
You really do want the flight crew to be at the top of their game on approach.
May I suggest that ESPRESSO be available to the front cabin
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I am sure this happens sometimes. But here is my opinion.
I work an average of 10 hours a day 6 days a week. In my contract of employment, it states, that I cannot sleep or doze off during any of my working shifts. I do not make even close to the money an airline pilot makes. Hence if an airline pilot is caught sleeping on a flight which is carrying paying passengers, he, she should be fired. And if I was on that plane, he, she should be summarily shot!
I work an average of 10 hours a day 6 days a week. In my contract of employment, it states, that I cannot sleep or doze off during any of my working shifts. I do not make even close to the money an airline pilot makes. Hence if an airline pilot is caught sleeping on a flight which is carrying paying passengers, he, she should be fired. And if I was on that plane, he, she should be summarily shot!
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I kind of disagree. The reason being that if they can refresh themselves, their skills would be sharper.
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Lets see now...
Long haul truckers have to keep log books to assure they do not drive too many hours without rest. These logbooks will be checked randomly by DOT. The truckers have the life sustaining responsibilty of one or two humans inside the rig and the potential of killing anywhere from 1-20 or more, if they fall asleep and lose control of their rig. ...
Pilots have up to 150 passengers on board and the potential to kill hundreds more on the ground if the plane crashes. Seeing that someone has considered sleepy truckers as an eminent danger to healthy living on the ground, is it time for the aviation authorities to review the rules (if there is any ? )for the amount of hours at the stick for plane pilots ? jmo
Long haul truckers have to keep log books to assure they do not drive too many hours without rest. These logbooks will be checked randomly by DOT. The truckers have the life sustaining responsibilty of one or two humans inside the rig and the potential of killing anywhere from 1-20 or more, if they fall asleep and lose control of their rig. ...
Pilots have up to 150 passengers on board and the potential to kill hundreds more on the ground if the plane crashes. Seeing that someone has considered sleepy truckers as an eminent danger to healthy living on the ground, is it time for the aviation authorities to review the rules (if there is any ? )for the amount of hours at the stick for plane pilots ? jmo
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Originally Posted by rangersvt04
greg- airplanes also have a thing called auto pilot. in the new planes it will almost land the plane.
Now, correct me if I am wrong here but wasnt AP designed primarily for in air flight, and not take offs and landings ? Almost being the key word here ? ...
I feel sure if AP's could be trusted 100 % to take planes off the ground and land them, then human pilots would already have been eliminated by the commercial flight industry.
Last edited by Greg 79 f150; Nov 3, 2007 at 02:29 PM.
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As long as they don't snore, all is good.
And comercial pilots do have rules as far as flight hours or awake time. We had to change out crews many times do to mechanical, or weather delays.
And comercial pilots do have rules as far as flight hours or awake time. We had to change out crews many times do to mechanical, or weather delays.
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pilots should not be asleep, it was obvious it was a problem in this case because air traffic control had to yell for them for a bit to even respond, now what if that auto pilot broke in flight? no one awake to even notice. plus what if ait traffic control had to get in touch with them immediatly for something?
their job is to be awake and pilot that plane. whether auto pilot or not is on, auot pilot is just a computer, which makes it capable of breaking. the pilot needs to be alert at all times to respond to an emergency.
their job is to be awake and pilot that plane. whether auto pilot or not is on, auot pilot is just a computer, which makes it capable of breaking. the pilot needs to be alert at all times to respond to an emergency.