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Old Oct 29, 2007 | 08:55 AM
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Another EBPV Question

Is there a way to check the operation of the ebpv? It seems like my ebpv quit working towards the end of last winter for no apparent reason. I recently checked/cleaned my ebp sensor tube, mounting bracket, and the sensor itself was clear of carbon. It was 31 degrees this morning here in Michigan and I thought the valve would of activated but I heard nothing. Is there a way to "trick" the valve to open to check the wiring and the valve itself to see if it is still operational. Thanks
 
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Old Oct 29, 2007 | 09:04 AM
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If everything else looks good, it may be your intake air temp sensor. It is located in the intake air box under the stock filter. If you did any mods to your intake you may have removed it.
 
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Old Oct 29, 2007 | 12:04 PM
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Thanks, I have my intake air temp sensor installed in the end of my 6637 but I just recently went to the 6637 and my ebpv seemed to quit working last winter when I still had my stock air intake.
 
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Old Nov 1, 2007 | 08:17 AM
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Does the actuator on the valve itself ever go bad or is it usually the ebp sensor or intake air temp sensor that doesn't activate the valve? Does anyone know what variables need to be met to activate the ebpv. Thanks
 
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Old Nov 1, 2007 | 08:53 AM
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The EBP valve cycles(self checks) about 5 seconds after each start up. looking from the front pax side and looking below the exhaust side(babies butt) of the turbo, you will see the EBP actuator. have someone start truck and watch for the actuator to move.
 
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Old Nov 1, 2007 | 09:02 AM
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The Exhaust Back-Pressure sensor is a variable capacitor sensor that is supplied a 5-volt reference signal by the PCM and returns a linear analog voltage signal that indicates pressure. The Exhaust Back-Pressure sensor measures the pressure in the RH exhaust manifold. This sensor is used in conjunction with the exhaust back-pressure regulator to form a closed loop exhaust back-pressure control system.

The exhaust back-pressure is controlled by the PCM to provide more heat to the coolant for cab heating when ambient air temperature is below 7°C (45°F) and engine oil temperature is below 75°C (167°F) during low load, low speed operating conditions.

An open or short in the Exhaust Back-Pressure sensor wiring will result in a low out of range voltage at the PCM, and the PCM will disable Exhaust Back-Pressure control.


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Old Nov 1, 2007 | 10:13 AM
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I know you guru's get sick of the EBPV questions, but that said, what must I do to warm up quicker, BPV kicks in when started then I drive 3 miles to get my morining mountain dew before work, when I come out of the store the EBPV has kicked in again.
can I make mods that warm it up quicker? i.e. cover the grill? is there a good looking product to do this with?
 
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Old Nov 1, 2007 | 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by SteveOz
I know you guru's get sick of the EBPV questions, but that said, what must I do to warm up quicker, BPV kicks in when started then I drive 3 miles to get my morining mountain dew before work, when I come out of the store the EBPV has kicked in again.
can I make mods that warm it up quicker? i.e. cover the grill? is there a good looking product to do this with?
The EBPV can and will cycle on and off depending on the conditions the truck is in. the EBPV is controlled by the PCM wich looks at EOT, coolant temp,baro, AIT1 and AIT2 if the truck has not come to full operating temp, during your 3 mile Dew run, then it will reactivate itself in the parking lot to help bring the truck up to temp.
As far as a faster warm up, I suggest a remote start feature, and about 15 min of warm up time before you jump in the truck.
Unless you live in a really cold enviorment(Canada/Alaska) I would not think a radiator block off would be necessary (but what do I know I live in south Alabama)
 
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Old Nov 1, 2007 | 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by SteveOz
I know you guru's get sick of the EBPV questions, but that said, what must I do to warm up quicker, BPV kicks in when started then I drive 3 miles to get my morining mountain dew before work, when I come out of the store the EBPV has kicked in again.
can I make mods that warm it up quicker? i.e. cover the grill? is there a good looking product to do this with?
An aftermarket high idle setting on a chip speeds it up some.
 
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Old Nov 1, 2007 | 11:40 AM
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Is there a way to check the operation of the ebpv?
Check out this thread for an illustration of the ebv check. Post #4:
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/6...-not-sure.html
 
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Old Nov 1, 2007 | 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by SteveOz
I know you guru's get sick of the EBPV questions, but that said, what must I do to warm up quicker, BPV kicks in when started then I drive 3 miles to get my morining mountain dew before work, when I come out of the store the EBPV has kicked in again.
can I make mods that warm it up quicker? i.e. cover the grill? is there a good looking product to do this with?

a fellow FTE'r Kwikkordead has his on a toggle switch to turn his EBPV on or off..it is also used as a exhaust brake.....i have the SP diesel exhaust brake that turns the EBPV into a brake...it also disables the EBPV from turning on with the cold weather but the high idle still comes on...if i want to use it for warming up faster,.. then i just turn it on..
 
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Old Nov 1, 2007 | 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by ron's power stoke
a fellow FTE'r Kwikkordead has his on a toggle switch to turn his EBPV on or off..it is also used as a exhaust brake.....i have the SP diesel exhaust brake that turns the EBPV into a brake...it also disables the EBPV from turning on with the cold weather but the high idle still comes on...if i want to use it for warming up faster,.. then i just turn it on..
Does anyone have how to hook this up to a toggle. What wire etc. mine turns on while driving down the road on cold mornings and I have let it warm up at least 10 minutes, truck idles itself up, coolant is about 145 degrees, oil temp is at about 125 degrees. Can the toogle help in disabling it kicking in going down the road?
 
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Old Nov 1, 2007 | 04:55 PM
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shoot Kwikkordead a PM..im sure he would be happy to tell you how...the EBPV soloniod is under the turbo..just above the blue dot in this pic..im sure you could tap into that with a switch on the dash to disable it.....you can unplug it and it will defalt to open.. but you will get the SES light..

 
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Old Nov 1, 2007 | 06:54 PM
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Same thing played with me for three years until I found the whole mechanism had come un-hooked. Didn't know until I finally pulled the turbo. If that actuator valve flops back and forth, you've got the same problem. The clip must have broke and the shaft worked loose.
 
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Old Nov 2, 2007 | 12:54 PM
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Thanks for the replies, I will check this weekend to see if the valve is cycling at start up. For some reason I could not get into Tenn01PSD350 link to the ebpv check. Is there a ohm check I can do at the sensor to see if the sensor is ok? Thanks
 
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