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Old Oct 26, 2007 | 11:23 AM
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Burning too much rubber

OK, there is really no such thing but truck tires are expensive! lol

Seems almost every time I pull out of somewhere my tires chirp without even trying, granted there are times I do try but this is getting ridiculous. I already asked about tires and the place told me I had about the best I could get for that.

The other night I pulled out of a shopping center and the road was damp so I fishtailed for a good 20 feet. Thankfully I play enough with my truck that I can control it but there has got to be a good way to alleviate the problem.

I'm guessing since it's the 4x4 Off Road it's the stiff suspension and my added power that is the cause. Short of removing my CAI what is the best way to handle this? Changing springs, shocks?
 
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Old Oct 26, 2007 | 12:02 PM
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Pickups are typically pretty light in the back, and the compact trucks are even lighter, so traction is a problem at the best of times. Even our little 2.3 2wd Ranger will break a tire loose on wet pavement without even trying. Just add some weight back there, a couple hundred pounds should make a noticable difference. I'm gonna load ours with patio stones for the winter.. will probably have to fabricate a simple wooden frame to keep them in place near the back of the bed.
 
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Old Oct 26, 2007 | 12:47 PM
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It's that intake and catback, your gonna have to pull off a plug wire and slow it down ha ha. You need a bigger tire, go get a set of BFG AT KO's, you can fit 265/75-16's under there. There awesome tires with awesome traction, also put your foot on a diet hee hee. I have 265's on mine, I can burn them if I try, but I have to try and I have a manual tranny. These tire are great off/road, also in snow and decent in mud, they have good road mannors and don't howl and wear well. I'm sure you have 4:10 gears and 245's are no match for them. Besides, bigger tires look better and it beats hauling around dead weight to clutter up the bed and rob mpg as added bed weight will do.
 
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Old Oct 26, 2007 | 01:00 PM
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I've been wanting to get beefier tires but it's not in the budget yet.
I planned on putting weight in for the winter but was hoping there was a solution for regular driving.
I kinda like the spinning but don't wanna wear out these tires too soon. lol
 
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Old Oct 26, 2007 | 01:28 PM
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You could also try cranking your torsion bars, this won't only level the truck, it will help shift the weight a little more to the rear. The stepside bed doesn't exactly help either as it's sorta lite. I had my t-bars cranked and front tires reallgined for 50 bucks at my local tire shop. A lot of folks crank them thier selfs at home, but the front end needs to be alligned anyway.
 
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Old Oct 26, 2007 | 01:32 PM
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too stiff of a front suspension seems to be a serious cause of this.
 
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Old Oct 26, 2007 | 04:19 PM
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lol, I can't get spinning on dry pavement, need line locks or something, but chirping and spinning on wet I do easily. Need more power, argh, argh, argh. Oh wait, I'm a girl, I'm not supposed to do that.
 
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Old Oct 26, 2007 | 04:35 PM
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no line lock, second gear half throttle and playing with it from a rolling start in that picture

Oh and those are 33x10.50 Mickey thompson ET drag slicks at 5.5psi
 
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Old Oct 27, 2007 | 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted by ValkyrieVixen
OK, there is really no such thing but truck tires are expensive! lol

Seems almost every time I pull out of somewhere my tires chirp without even trying, granted there are times I do try but this is getting ridiculous. I already asked about tires and the place told me I had about the best I could get for that.

The other night I pulled out of a shopping center and the road was damp so I fishtailed for a good 20 feet. Thankfully I play enough with my truck that I can control it but there has got to be a good way to alleviate the problem.

I'm guessing since it's the 4x4 Off Road it's the stiff suspension and my added power that is the cause. Short of removing my CAI what is the best way to handle this? Changing springs, shocks?
I suspect the problem isn't so much the CAI, or 4X4, as it is with your right foots learning curve!!!!

Try a 2X4 block under the gas pedal & an egg between your right foot & the go pedal.
If the right foot is a slow learner, make the egg a rotten one, that'll speed up the learning process!!!! lol
 
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Old Oct 27, 2007 | 09:42 AM
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Speaking from experience, the t-bar crank and larger tires stopped my unwanted wheel spinning, now I have to try. With the mods I can spin in first through 2nd gear, but in normal driving, it's not a problem, even on wet pavement. Lets face it, you have 4:10 gears, 235 pounds of torque, 245 stock size tires and a lite rearend, thats a recipie for wheel spin. As pawpaw has also sugested, you have to be mindful of this when taking off, more so when it's wet or you have your tires cocked to turn. My stock goodyears were a hard compound and spun in a heartbeat. You could also lower rear tire presure, but I wouldn't recomend it, will cause excessive tire wear and poor mpg, but works great off/road for better traction.
 
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Old Oct 27, 2007 | 10:12 AM
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Try some wider gripper tires and bags of concrete in the rear.
 
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Old Oct 27, 2007 | 12:57 PM
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My OEM tires had that problem also, I went 45K with them and decided to upgrade the tires, bought a set of Pirelli Scorpion ATRs and that seemed to cure the problem. Plus with those tires I got great traction in all the conditions I encounter, but they are pricey. Well worth it to me, I intend to drive the wheels off of this one.
 
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Old Oct 28, 2007 | 10:22 PM
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C'mon Pawpaw, my foot knows it's way around a gas pedal just fine. lol

One quick fix I found to use occasionally, put it in 4WD when I know I'm gonna have to pull out into traffic quick, worked good today.
 
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Old Oct 29, 2007 | 03:31 AM
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Originally Posted by ValkyrieVixen
The other night I pulled out of a shopping center and the road was damp so I fishtailed for a good 20 feet.
Dont tell me that I'm the only one thinking that this is why most women drive cars? You cant get most cars sideways and it'd probably scare the majority to death if they did!! I'm not doubting your skills. It just goes to show that some women like to get crazy with their driving and some of those wouldnt have a clue of how to get themselves out of the situation they got themselves into!

On your traction issue, you are driving what you drive. A truck with a HUGE empty void hanging over the rear axle. Adjust for it. Any truck will get loose in the rear end since on the majority of them has a front to rear weight ratio of usually 60%/40% or as much as 70%/30%.

If your rear end seemed to hop a little versus merely spinning the tires you're getting flex in the rear suspension, namely the leaf springs. Some Cal-trac bars would help that by minimizing the torsional forces in the leafs.
 
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