A very interesting read..
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A very interesting read..
http://www.autotrader.com/research/s...o&restype=used
The link is definitly worth reading if your in anyway interested in automobiles. It shows that the govt. has admitted what we already know about the driver's of SUVs
The link is definitly worth reading if your in anyway interested in automobiles. It shows that the govt. has admitted what we already know about the driver's of SUVs
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That is a good read, thanks for the link. It just goes to show that they should make you take and I.Q test before they give you a drivers licence. It would narrow down on the number of people who driver their SUV's/trucks like idiots.
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Originally Posted by Old Rust Bucket
http://www.autotrader.com/research/shared/article.jsp?article_id=3484&refpage=safetyinfo&res type=used
The link is definitly worth reading if your in anyway interested in automobiles. It shows that the govt. has admitted what we already know about the driver's of SUVs
The link is definitly worth reading if your in anyway interested in automobiles. It shows that the govt. has admitted what we already know about the driver's of SUVs
don't forget minivans (worst drivers ever)
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Originally Posted by dragogt
don't forget minivans (worst drivers ever)
I still can't believe how many V8 SUVs I see go flying by me on the interstate like they own their own refinery. It boggles the mind. Much of the time the driver is also otherwise occupied (makeup, cellphone, talking to passengers, etc.). If anything goes wrong at 80-90 in one of those, fuhgetaboutit....
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Sounds like they 'flew over the kookoos nest'. It's like taking a Bronco up a steep hill and then driving a lifted 250 cross-hill on the same hill. Which 1 will end up tumbling ??
Common sense will always prevail. (( Oregon has a "Basic Rule" law - drive slower in rain/snow to avoid accidents. Tickets do get issued for this. Go too fast, end up in the ditch, get a ticket.))
Common sense will always prevail. (( Oregon has a "Basic Rule" law - drive slower in rain/snow to avoid accidents. Tickets do get issued for this. Go too fast, end up in the ditch, get a ticket.))
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This just cracks me up. People nowdays have absolutly no common sense or judgement.
Ahh, a car with the center of gravity of 20" off the ground. Or a Mini suv, Expeidition which is a mini suv. Don't go there, on the Expy being a mini suv. That is another topic. Anyway suvs have a center of gravity of about 49".
These vehichles weigh about the same. So which one do you think might roll quicker? Duh, a no brainer. That is why stupid men put their wives and children in a suv, and figure they are safer. It is because they cannot add or subtract!
LOL LOL LO LOOOOOL HA, A hahahaha.
Suv, equals a dumb woman, with a even dumber husband!
Ahh, a car with the center of gravity of 20" off the ground. Or a Mini suv, Expeidition which is a mini suv. Don't go there, on the Expy being a mini suv. That is another topic. Anyway suvs have a center of gravity of about 49".
These vehichles weigh about the same. So which one do you think might roll quicker? Duh, a no brainer. That is why stupid men put their wives and children in a suv, and figure they are safer. It is because they cannot add or subtract!
LOL LOL LO LOOOOOL HA, A hahahaha.
Suv, equals a dumb woman, with a even dumber husband!
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Ask any LEO and he will tell you it isn't the sports cars that he is busting for speeding
mostly, It is trucks and suv's. In a truck it seems that they think they are not seen to
be speeders by cops but the cops don't think the same!! Also that myth about red cars
is crap a cop knows that someone who makes a habit out of speeding is not going to
buy a red car because of that myth, So they really don't pay mind to the color. If you are driving the same route to work everyday and the same LEO sees you speeding on
the same route because you are late or some other reason, He is 10 times more likely to pull you over since he sees you as a habitual speeder!! Moral of the story don't get
complacent on your daily commute and step up the speed you would be suprised who
is watching and paying attention. He may let you slide 300 times and then you expect
him to let you slide when he does pull you over, Nope!! He knows how fast you normally go.
mostly, It is trucks and suv's. In a truck it seems that they think they are not seen to
be speeders by cops but the cops don't think the same!! Also that myth about red cars
is crap a cop knows that someone who makes a habit out of speeding is not going to
buy a red car because of that myth, So they really don't pay mind to the color. If you are driving the same route to work everyday and the same LEO sees you speeding on
the same route because you are late or some other reason, He is 10 times more likely to pull you over since he sees you as a habitual speeder!! Moral of the story don't get
complacent on your daily commute and step up the speed you would be suprised who
is watching and paying attention. He may let you slide 300 times and then you expect
him to let you slide when he does pull you over, Nope!! He knows how fast you normally go.
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I'm not the world's greatest driver, but even I can feel that SUVs do a bit more leaning -- should tell you something. Also, they have (now in even bigger permanent letters), a warning label saying that they are tippy. Maybe they need a little graphic of one tipping over 
A tow truck driver once told me that they get a lot of SUVs when the roads ice up a little. It seems that since they have 4WD, traction is never a problem -- except, of course, on ice! Then when it slides over to a dry spot and really grabs, it flips.
Makes you almost wish you'd have to pass a performance driving test, after you'd been driving a couple of years
ford2go
A tow truck driver once told me that they get a lot of SUVs when the roads ice up a little. It seems that since they have 4WD, traction is never a problem -- except, of course, on ice! Then when it slides over to a dry spot and really grabs, it flips.
Makes you almost wish you'd have to pass a performance driving test, after you'd been driving a couple of years
ford2go
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my wife had a 98 explorer awhile back, and it had the firestone blowout specials on it, well not exactly the recall was for wilderness a/t, and we had wilderness h/t, or something like that. she was concerned about the whole blowout rollover thing that had been plagueing the news for months, but i gave her advice from my racing experience on the drag strip, and circle dirt track midgets. i told her the first thing you do is don't panic, don't slam the brakes, and ease off the gas, and get off the road.
not even a week later she's doing 65-70 in the far left of a 5 lane freeway, and the left front blows out, i get a call at work, and find her on the shoulder safe, but a little shaken, rims chewed to ***** (aluminum), and its the tread seperation deal, two sidewalls shredded, and tread intact by itself.
my wife had been driving less than 5 yrs. when this happened, so a little education can go a long way, yeah it could have been different if a rear had let go. or if she was going faster, etc., but the way she drives now is a lot safer and courteous even with her new expedition, than it was when she had that explorer.
not even a week later she's doing 65-70 in the far left of a 5 lane freeway, and the left front blows out, i get a call at work, and find her on the shoulder safe, but a little shaken, rims chewed to ***** (aluminum), and its the tread seperation deal, two sidewalls shredded, and tread intact by itself.
my wife had been driving less than 5 yrs. when this happened, so a little education can go a long way, yeah it could have been different if a rear had let go. or if she was going faster, etc., but the way she drives now is a lot safer and courteous even with her new expedition, than it was when she had that explorer.
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Originally Posted by jroehl
I disagree. I have a Dodge Grand Caravan and have had to do an emergency swerve at 65 mph or so. It did it much better than a Sable I used to own, in which I also had to do a high-speed swerve. Minivans often have a much lower CoG than an SUV, due to being unibody construction instead of body-on-frame like most SUVs. My Caravan pretty much drives like a medium-sized car. It's still not a sports car, though.
I still can't believe how many V8 SUVs I see go flying by me on the interstate like they own their own refinery. It boggles the mind. Much of the time the driver is also otherwise occupied (makeup, cellphone, talking to passengers, etc.). If anything goes wrong at 80-90 in one of those, fuhgetaboutit....
Jason
I still can't believe how many V8 SUVs I see go flying by me on the interstate like they own their own refinery. It boggles the mind. Much of the time the driver is also otherwise occupied (makeup, cellphone, talking to passengers, etc.). If anything goes wrong at 80-90 in one of those, fuhgetaboutit....
Jason
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Originally Posted by dragogt
You're must be the exception to the rule than, but it's been my experience that most minivan drivers will make high speed Lane changes, stop short, cut you off, and generally play "nascar" quicker than even the ricer's.
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Interesting read all around... Like when the Geo Tracker 1st came out - Consumer Reports gave it a BAD report because they rolled 1 in their tests. Some time later an off-road mag tested 1 and gave it flying colors, and they stated something like this, " A 4x4 vehicle that is stable overall WILL tip and roll if jerk-wheel manuvers are done at high speed on rough terrain."
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Originally Posted by NewEnglandHerdsman
Depends on whether you're talking the minivan vehicle or the minivan driver. As for the vehicle, I'll have to agree with jroelh. I was driving my wife's Caravan home from Vermont one night - dark, rainy, some fog. I was doing about 70 when there was a deer right in front of me. No brakes, just a hard turn to the right, hard turn back to the left an dI was driving along again like nothing ever happened. All just reaction, over too fast to be scared. No way I would ever try that consciously, but the Caravan performed magnificently!