Replacing Front Brakes
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Yes sir, there are going to be screws on the outside, I believe they're torx screws, can't remember the size. Again, because I'm not sure of you're setup I'm not sure of how many screws you'll have, but it SHOULD be six torx screws on the lockout end cap.
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Thanks Skandocious!
At your request, I've got a few more questions...
Regarding the two sliding pins, I'm a bit unsure about how I should remove them. Do I compress the C-clamp until it won't compress any further? And when I go to remove the sliding pins, do I just use a hammer and a punch and tap them inward?? Also, how far do these pins go before they release the caliper? Is there any special step to removing the pin? I've been reading that the sliding pins should be tapped inward until they hit the spindle, and then to somehow pry them out...again, this is wear I get lost.
You'll be happy to know that I just ordered the Ford repair manuals from ebay this evening!! Maybe I'll learn enough from them so I don't have to ask stupid repetitive questions on this board!!
Thanks again for the help!!
At your request, I've got a few more questions...
Regarding the two sliding pins, I'm a bit unsure about how I should remove them. Do I compress the C-clamp until it won't compress any further? And when I go to remove the sliding pins, do I just use a hammer and a punch and tap them inward?? Also, how far do these pins go before they release the caliper? Is there any special step to removing the pin? I've been reading that the sliding pins should be tapped inward until they hit the spindle, and then to somehow pry them out...again, this is wear I get lost.
You'll be happy to know that I just ordered the Ford repair manuals from ebay this evening!! Maybe I'll learn enough from them so I don't have to ask stupid repetitive questions on this board!!
Thanks again for the help!!
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To be totally honest, I'm really not sure about this step. My truck is a bit newer then yours so I have caliper bolts instead of pins. I have seen them but never worked on them. I would think that it would be pretty self explanitory once you look at them... Sorry, I'll look it up when I get home from work.
And I'm not sure if you're misunderstanding but you don't compress the caliper piston until AFTER you get the caliper off the rotor and the pads off the caliper. In fact, you really don't need to compress the caliper until you are ready to reinstall the new pads and put the caliper back on. Does that make sense?
And I'm not sure if you're misunderstanding but you don't compress the caliper piston until AFTER you get the caliper off the rotor and the pads off the caliper. In fact, you really don't need to compress the caliper until you are ready to reinstall the new pads and put the caliper back on. Does that make sense?
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Hey Skandocious.
No worries on the sliding pin instructions. I'm with you...I imagine it will be pretty self-explanatory once I get there.
As far as the caliper compression goes...I guess I am a bit lost on this part. So, what is the reasoning for compressing them anyways? You're saying I don't need to compress them UNTIL I go to reinstall them (with new pads on already)? Sounds like the caliper compression is done to get them back on to the rotors?
Thanks again!! You're savin' my bacon on this one!!
No worries on the sliding pin instructions. I'm with you...I imagine it will be pretty self-explanatory once I get there.
As far as the caliper compression goes...I guess I am a bit lost on this part. So, what is the reasoning for compressing them anyways? You're saying I don't need to compress them UNTIL I go to reinstall them (with new pads on already)? Sounds like the caliper compression is done to get them back on to the rotors?
Thanks again!! You're savin' my bacon on this one!!
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ok, here goes.
The pistons are a part of the caliper. They are the part that pushes against the brake pads when you put your foot on the brake pedal. An easy way to remember this is that the brake system is hydraulic (works on fluid pressure) and the pistons are what move.
Anyway, when your pads wear down, they get thinner, so the piston has to extend, and stay partially extended, to make up the difference. the more worn out your pads are, the more extended your pistons will be. When you want to install new, thicker pads, you have to compress the piston back into the caliper to make room.
I can't find a decent diagram showing this exactly. For general info about brakes, check out:
http://www.carbibles.com/brake_bible.html
Hope this helped.
The pistons are a part of the caliper. They are the part that pushes against the brake pads when you put your foot on the brake pedal. An easy way to remember this is that the brake system is hydraulic (works on fluid pressure) and the pistons are what move.
Anyway, when your pads wear down, they get thinner, so the piston has to extend, and stay partially extended, to make up the difference. the more worn out your pads are, the more extended your pistons will be. When you want to install new, thicker pads, you have to compress the piston back into the caliper to make room.
I can't find a decent diagram showing this exactly. For general info about brakes, check out:
http://www.carbibles.com/brake_bible.html
Hope this helped.
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Originally Posted by seventyseven250
ok, here goes.
The pistons are a part of the caliper. They are the part that pushes against the brake pads when you put your foot on the brake pedal. An easy way to remember this is that the brake system is hydraulic (works on fluid pressure) and the pistons are what move.
Anyway, when your pads wear down, they get thinner, so the piston has to extend, and stay partially extended, to make up the difference. the more worn out your pads are, the more extended your pistons will be. When you want to install new, thicker pads, you have to compress the piston back into the caliper to make room.
I can't find a decent diagram showing this exactly. For general info about brakes, check out:
http://www.carbibles.com/brake_bible.html
Hope this helped.
The pistons are a part of the caliper. They are the part that pushes against the brake pads when you put your foot on the brake pedal. An easy way to remember this is that the brake system is hydraulic (works on fluid pressure) and the pistons are what move.
Anyway, when your pads wear down, they get thinner, so the piston has to extend, and stay partially extended, to make up the difference. the more worn out your pads are, the more extended your pistons will be. When you want to install new, thicker pads, you have to compress the piston back into the caliper to make room.
I can't find a decent diagram showing this exactly. For general info about brakes, check out:
http://www.carbibles.com/brake_bible.html
Hope this helped.
I've basically just explained the prior poster's response in a different way. Hopefully one of them makes sense
So take the pads off, take calipers off, compress the piston (it will hold its place after you compress it), put caliper back on, put pads back on caliper, reassmbled everything.
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No problem brother. Keep the questions comin' if you get lost. Don't forget about rep points for myself and the other guys that helped here Oh, and probably a rep point for Andym for teaching me what I know about brakes
Oh, and probably a rep point for Andym for teaching me what I know about brakes
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Apparently I either gave them to you for the fan project or for something else prior... Either way, the site won't let me give you anymore. Please accept this as a substitute:
Netscaner is THE MAN when it comes to electrical systems. All FTE members shall bow down in his presence!! (if they want)
Netscaner is THE MAN when it comes to electrical systems. All FTE members shall bow down in his presence!! (if they want)
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