Do I Have To Stop?
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From: Windsor, Colorado
Commercial by the dot usually means for hire to transport goods. Joe blow contractor towing his backhoe or skidsteer is not commercial. If he was being paid by someone to transport thier equipment then they could fall under commercial. As far as a log and cdl goes, if you are under 26k you dont need either.
The key is if you are going to haul for hire then get legal. Go get an authority, dot # and commercial liablity and load insurance. after that by all means pull in the scales, they expect you to. If you are not for hire just go about your business and dont waste the time of the professionals trying to make a living.
The key is if you are going to haul for hire then get legal. Go get an authority, dot # and commercial liablity and load insurance. after that by all means pull in the scales, they expect you to. If you are not for hire just go about your business and dont waste the time of the professionals trying to make a living.
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OK i just got off the phone with the dot and nc motor carrier. They told me that with a gcwr rating of 22k( like he has) he will need to stop at the stations whether he is hauling for hire or not for hire/ personal use. Now if he is going to cross the state line and is in commerce he will need a dot number. it all depends on what the end use of the furniture is. if he plans to sell that furniture or reciever compensation for that furniture then in the eyes of the dot that is considered commerce. thus requiring a dot number.
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The key Gurthrie is what state you are in. In some states they want commercial AND non-commercial trucks to stop, in most they only want commercial trucks, and in some states they only want commercial trucks over 26k to stop. Read the signs!
And you aren't wasting their time if you are following the law
So stop if you have any questions, if they don't want you to they will pass you through. Truckers can go smack themselves if they can't wait an extra 10 seconds to keep the roads safe.
And you aren't wasting their time if you are following the law
So stop if you have any questions, if they don't want you to they will pass you through. Truckers can go smack themselves if they can't wait an extra 10 seconds to keep the roads safe.
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You know I always thought that I wouldn't have to stop in a weight station as long as I was "not for hire" or towing my Camper - but I just found the NC General Statue that says otherwise...
GS 20-118.1
Now - I've seen many campers, and private truck/trailer combos breeze right past weight stations and nothing ever happens to them. My assumption is that they (HP) has enough to do dealing with the 18-wheelers.
So will I stop the next I'm towing my TT - nope... I'll go right on past...
GS 20-118.1
Any person operating a vehicle or a combination of vehicles having a GVWR of 10,001 pounds or more ...
must enter a permanent weigh station or temporary inspection or weigh site as directed by duly erected signs or an electronic transponder for the purpose of being electronically screened for compliance, or weighed, or inspected.
must enter a permanent weigh station or temporary inspection or weigh site as directed by duly erected signs or an electronic transponder for the purpose of being electronically screened for compliance, or weighed, or inspected.
So will I stop the next I'm towing my TT - nope... I'll go right on past...
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From: Elizabethtown, KY
The Fed's DOT site requires that you qualify as a "motor carrier" to register for a DOT number. It defines a "motor carrier" as:
Motor Carrier: definition
A company that provides truck transportation.
There are two types of motor carriers: private carriers and for-hire carriers.
A farm vehicle may be a good example of a private carrier as would a distribution firm like "Sysco" vs. a "for hire" hauler like Hunt. But I don't believe that an RV or even a large rental truck falls into this category.
I'm willing to chance being chased down by an overly-enthusiastic LEO rather than gum up the lines at the scales.
Motor Carrier: definition
A company that provides truck transportation.
There are two types of motor carriers: private carriers and for-hire carriers.
A farm vehicle may be a good example of a private carrier as would a distribution firm like "Sysco" vs. a "for hire" hauler like Hunt. But I don't believe that an RV or even a large rental truck falls into this category.
I'm willing to chance being chased down by an overly-enthusiastic LEO rather than gum up the lines at the scales.
Last edited by Ironhorse7; Oct 17, 2007 at 04:41 PM.
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dang it guys yall got me all worried again. I guess i will call the s. carolina and n. carolina folks and tell them every aspect of my set up and see what they say. My mother in law is moving up there and i am doing it for free so it technically aint commercial.
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it's all vehicles with a licensed GVW, just because you are over that weight does not mean you have to stop, if you are concerned, you can always call the weigh station and ask for their policy on private vehicles using their stations, keep in mind that if you cross the scale and are overweight, you will get ticketed whether or not you were required to cross the scale.
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just a not to UAG: if you end up stopping make sure you have the proper GVW registered to cover both your pickup and trailer. And since it is a borrowed trailer, make sure you have his registration. The last thing is dont tell the dot guy its not your stuff in the trailer. Even if you are not being paid if you get the supertrooper he or she could reak havoc on you for transporting household goods for hire. I dont remember how, but household goods fall under some other provision on the commercial side of things.
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From: Greenvile, SC
After relizing this lit'l bit of detail...
I wouldn't worry about it.
Originally Posted by UGA33
My mother in law is moving up there and i am doing it for free so it technically aint commercial.
Last edited by FTE Trigger; Oct 21, 2007 at 01:18 AM.