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Old Oct 6, 2007 | 12:52 PM
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A few ?'s

1. I looked out the window and noticed a puddle of fluid under my pickup:

http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/...1994F350011.jpg

So I looked under and saw that it seemed to be dripping from the pitman arm:

http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/...1994F350013.jpg


I looked around and couldnt see where the oil (since it is brown and oily) is coming from.

Could it be from the power steering? I just changed the oil and put 11 quarts into the truck. Is there some way that is too uch and it is leaking from somewhere...far fetched but I am getting sick of this pickup!!!


2. I also noticed that the serp belt is wearing and there is rubber dust coating everything under the hood. The belt is half off of the tensioner below the vac pump pulley:

http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/...1994F350007.jpg

3. I noticed that the AC pulley area made some light grinding noise while the truck was running...sounded like someone sharpening a knife on sandstone. Should the end of the AC pulley spin with the pulley or should it idle there with the pulley spinning around it...not a good question but I hope someone could help. Mine spans a rate of about one spin for every ten the pulley does...alll while making that grinding noise.


Any input is welcome. I think the truck is going back to the shop on monday!!!
 
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Old Oct 6, 2007 | 05:13 PM
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It is hard for me to see in this picture...but does your belt come from under the fan pulley up and over the tensioner then straight down to the idler and back over the crank? Then around the crank outside the PS pump and straight up and over the A/C compressor?

Perhaps the engine in your NA 350 is different from mine? I once took my truck to a shop and they got the belt on wrong...made the water pump run backwards. I don't know how the did it, but the dang thing fit like that. Any way, good luck. If you can post a picture of your engine, then I can see if they are the same.
 
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Old Oct 6, 2007 | 06:52 PM
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How about a video...

http://s230.photobucket.com/albums/e...ineRunning.flv

FYI the AC is off
 

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Old Oct 6, 2007 | 09:11 PM
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It is still tough to see, but it appears your belt is routed wrong.

It should be...Gates part # K061120. Starting at the alternator it should go left side of alternator down and under the fan, over the tensioner, straight down the right side and under the idler toward the left and over the crank, around the crank, out to the right of the PS pump, Straight up and over the A/C compressor, under the vacuum pump and back to the top of the alternator.

It looks like your belt leave the alternator and goes over the fan. When mine was on wrong the only way I knew it was every once in a while under load I would hear it squeak, and I had belt dust all over the engine and it tracked off on some of the pulleys. Turned out when the shop put it back together the fan flew off it...duh, that should have given some one a clue, but instead they put the fan back on and drove a chisel into the nut so it wouldn't come off again. Wierd thing, the water pump was running backward and I pulled a trailer with a car on it for 1600 miles and it never heated up. Good thing it was Chicago in the winter.

I don't know if this will solve all your problems but it's gotta help one.

Good luck
 
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Old Oct 6, 2007 | 10:17 PM
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DUDE!!!!

Ok, to be honest...at first when I read you post I was thinking yeah whatever the belt wont be on wrong theres a freaken diagram and everything....

Well, I just checked and the Mother F'er is on wrong....son of a....

I will probably go buy another one tomorrow and see what that cures...

THANKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I would have never noticed...Actually, neither did TWO mechanic shops that worked on it thus far...
 
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Old Oct 6, 2007 | 10:27 PM
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It is crazy... the picture on my truck...isn't even for my truck. I went back to the mechanic shop and told him I thought it was on wrong and he said "can't be" so He opened the book and I said "it don't look like that". I changed it myself, told him to keep his *&^% hands off my truck.
 
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Old Oct 6, 2007 | 10:29 PM
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hmmm...yeah, it should have dawned on me earlier being as the belts were coming off and in one place only had about 1/16 clearance...
what does a SErp belt run and how do I go about loosening one of the tensioners???
 
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Old Oct 6, 2007 | 11:10 PM
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I forget what the belt cost I wanna say like 35 bucks. I think it is a 5/8". just put a socket on the tensioner that's the one under the vac pump. turn it counter clockwise and it will loosen the belt. I think you will find the one on it now a little hard to get off. If I remember the tensioner is as far counter clockwise as it will go with the belt like that. Anyway, when you get that one off (cut it if you have the right new one) just route it like I said and pull that tensioner CCW and she will slip right on. Oh do yourself a favor and do this with the engine cold. I did mine hot, and mad, and it was not fun. The times I have done it on a cold engine its a breeze
 
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Old Oct 6, 2007 | 11:18 PM
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Sweet........
 
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Old Oct 7, 2007 | 11:01 AM
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dude I cant get the new one on...its seems too small or do they stretch out a little bit???
 
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Old Oct 7, 2007 | 11:09 AM
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Is your engine set up the way I describe it? with the vacuum pump on top, tensioner, below that and Idler below that, with the PS pump right under the A/C compressor? If so it should go on there. You will have to pull the tensioner a pretty good ways to the left, I mean it will be tight going on but it should go on.
 
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Old Oct 7, 2007 | 11:16 AM
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Ok...I obviously thought I could get it on without loosening the torx screws..alas I cannot...going to get a #50....
 
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Old Oct 7, 2007 | 11:19 AM
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No wait, you should not have to loosen any thing. the Tensioner has a nut on the front of it 5/8 ths I believe. Just put a socket on it and pull it counter clock wise
 
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Old Oct 7, 2007 | 11:38 AM
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???

Call me and i'll call you back I am confused!!!

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Old Oct 7, 2007 | 02:27 PM
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I just looked at your video.Looks like your ac clutch is dragging.If it is off,that drive
plate should not move.That will burn the clutch and belt.If it was on,then it
is slipping and will do the same damage.and cause the front seal to leak.
 
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