Most of the kids these days can't even take the time to pull their pants up...how do you expect them to spell correctly? One good thing we know; there will be plenty of workers for Walmart!

 

Very true, McDonalds will always need fry fryers and burger flippers.

 

Haha yeah very true... And the only way I do good in school, like English class, is when I use my electronic dictionary/thesorus. Here is a good question, when dose a mechanic, welder, machinist, or any real manual hard labor by hand tradesman ,or woman, need to spell perfect? Only when they need to fill out a time sheet or even orderparts (Spell the parts name right). Another thing I think that is making students and the younger generation more lazy is when they are forced to make thier own notes when a teacher or instructor gives a lesson. People don't always learn that way the best. They simply give up and end up failing that grade or class. No offence to the city kids, but they seem to be the worst at cutting corners and try to things fast and be lazy. I don't cut corners on my truck, i take my time at any mods, or imporvments i make on my pickup, hence why out of all the kids at my school, my truck is the only one that hasn't broken down yet, well besides all the kids who drive mommys and daddys cars or trucks.

 

So, you are limiting yourself to being a "hard manual laborist" or a woman? What ever happened to personal development and holding yourself to a higher standard? Not just learning enough to get by.

By the way, that sounds like a pretty chauvinistic statement about women not needing to know how to spell correctly, unless I am misunderstanding the grammar you used in that sentence.

 

Totaly miss understood man! hahaha Ok I enjoy building things by had and fixing things and improving things to make them better. We cannont always rely on computers to do everything for us, sometimes its best to build it by hand or yourself. The sentence about women was just to bring women into trades more because you are seeing more and more women in trade, not a bad thing at all, more the better I personaly think.
I'm just saying if your in certain trades, you don't really need to know how to spell super fantastic like a total english dork. haha All you need is ur math and sciences, thats all

 

I figured that was what you meant, your statement just hit me funny

 

Well, being a cnc machinist myself, I would consider it VERY important to use proper English and grammer.

I build parts that go into commercial planes that thousands of people fly in everyday.

Do you think an engineer wants to get an e-mail from me in the morning that looks like this?

Yo Jake dem parts we was runnin las nite r **cked up

Or should the person who possibly holds thousands of lives in their hands type like this?

Dear Jake,
We had some problems with the parts we were running last night.

Communication is very important no matter what your job is, and its very difficult to understand someone who types like a third grader.

 

I learned proper grammar at an early age. My mother was an immigrant and her second language was English. She became a clerk and did that for 30 years. She always corrected us. If we couldn't spell something, she told us to look it up. Also, to this day, no foul language is spoken in her house. We respect her for that. She's 86 and still smart as a whip. Since you take pride in your craftsmanship when you work on your Ford, please do the same with your language by spelling correctly. It helps us who read this forum to help everyone else. We need to know what you are talking about. Spell checker is great. Now all we need to have is punctuation checker.

 

Dear Professional Welding Company A,

I would like to take the time to thank you for your consideration in the recent employment opportunity with your company. I believe that I would make a valuable addition to your team. Likewise I believe that your company will help me to grow not only as a person but also as a leader. It is through hard work and determination that things are accomplished, and I am willing to work hard for your company. Thank you for your consideration in this matter.

Sincerely,
Peter Tuma

Or...

mr welder guy...

thanks for having me the interview favorite part was the downuts while iw as in the wating room them was good do you havepen to know how they make tem? anyway, i think i would really like to work for the welding company, it looks like a pretty sweet job yo miht have no ticd that mi english skils arnt all that good but in traeds lik this u only need math and science, english is 4 dorks! neway catch you l8ter

pete

I hope you get the point after reading this. Its not like you show up to your job (no matter what trade) and just start welding, or working and never have to write anything. I happen to work as a tire and oil tech for a company (to put me through college). You wouldn't think I would need to know grammer very well for that job, but you look like a freaking idiot when you write "breaks is 95 percent worn" on a work order (like some of my not so educated teammates have done).

Do you think a customer is going to trust someone to work on their car who doesn't even know how to properly spell the word brakes in the right context, and does not know when to use is/are? If I was a customer and saw that, I would be going "thanks, thats good to know but I'll let someone who can spell work on my car". Meanwhile your lack of knowledge in the english language has just cost you probably 200-300$.

You know that you have bad grammer when people from other countries have better english grammer than you do. There are many people who have learned their own language and speak it properly, then go on to learn english (one of the hardest languages to learn) and STILL speak it better than most people. The least Americans can do is speak their own language the right way.

My rant is over. One of the most powerful tools you have is the power of speech. Look at my above examples. Which employee would you rather hire? Someone who is charismatic and can communicate effectively, or the "other guy" who cannot?

One of the biggest gifts my father has (as I see it) is his ability to write a well worded letter to get a point across and make things happen. Everything he writes always has a noticeable voice to it, and the tone of the letters can be very stern, or can be very happy, depending on who he is writing to. Being a police officer for 35 years you have to be able to communicate effectively. It is not just limited to that job. You NEED english for EVERYTHING EVERYTHING EVERYTHING (trust me, I hate it too).

I almost failed my senior english class (in fact I think I did, but the teacher just felt sorry for me so she graduated me), but now in college (and living on my own) I would say english is on of my favorite subjects, and one of the things I have found the most benificial. I did awsome in my english comp class in college.

On the other hand my girlfriend does not have very good grammer, and I believe that she has written letters and filled out forms and has lost out on opportunities because of her grammer, while on the other hand I have had no problem.

Okay, now its really the end of the rant. Thanks for listening.

 

78f150.... buddy good thing you said you didn't mean that the way it sounded.....

I worked as a relay opr for the deaf for nearly 4 years. In that context we dropped all punctuation and capitalization because the equipment typed in all caps. We put Q for the end of a sentence that was phrased as a question and the rest we left off completely. The speed requirements (only 55 wpm to get hired but to truly be good at it you had to break 80 wpm) just nearly mandated that we use the abbreviations set in the system. They auto expanded. So when I typed something like "wld" it would show up on the users screen as "would" therefore saving keystrokes and increasing speed and accuracy on this particular system. To this day I can still break 100 wpm using these abbreviations and such. I have added each and every abbreviation I used to my autocorrect feature of my word processors at home and at work and even adding capitalization and true punctuation I can and do still break 90 wpm. I do still, however, forget that IE doesn't autocorrect and use those abbreviations quite frequently in my posts. I have never had a complaint. I don't use capitalization unless I'm really intent on making an intelligent sounding point.

All that being said, i'm one of the only people i know that types with her original texan accent. you'll catch me typin w/o the g's on the ends of my ing's and fixing to is reduced to fixin'a becuase it's kind of amusin to throw in once in a while and really is how we speak around here. i'm a two thumb texter and i spell all the words fully becuz if i don't, the t9 doesn't know what the he... ck i'm trying to say and i end up tappin them out anyway. that annoys me becuz it's SLOW. the people who type with numbers instead of letters, now that is just pointlessly annoyin too. it might look cute to someone at first but get over it and yourself.

i do at least bother to find out if they seem to know what they're talkin abt before i haul off and assume they're idiots becuz they can't or don't choose to spell correctly. thing is, someone who can spell doesn't mean they know didly abt my truck... it's a double standard but at least with the minimal effort it requires to make yourself look intelligent you avoid it. *shrug*

 

lol.....I like how ya'll are ranting and raving...brings back memories (not so fond ones) of high school...Oh, and you spelled GRAMMAR wrong.....spelling is my thing as well...I just don't press the right buttons sometimes....Later

JR

 

WOW leave him alone! After all he is from Canada.

 

Here's a tip for those who may need help with spelling: I'll open up Microsoft Word and type out a word if I can't remember how to spell it. If my instinct says I'm wrong, then its easy to find out the correct way to spell it.

 

I hate it when people type like that! I just want to jump through the computer screen and smack them around a little bit! then duck tape them to the chair and make them do the computer program I had in elementary that taught kids how to type with real grammar and all! lol