LOL yea that too. It doesnt leak but you have no clue of how bad it is bothering me. But im an old school guy at age 18 with everything ive ever owned being a carb. As for the rock crawlers on 4x4 tv they use 350 engines with the Fuel injection. I have seen some with carbs and they do run very well. I also saw another show from trucks, where stacy took a truck with a regular carb on it and tried to climb a steep grade, later to find that the truck stalled. He fixed that issue with a holley 4x4 truck carb and that thing ran beautiful. Im having fun with this topic also, keep em coming!

 

How about using a powerstroke out of a 1994- 97 F-250? Ive always wanted to do that and im sure if you use the running gear you will have one very very tough truck! Other than a little on the heavy side but with the short wheel base that should help a little.

 

thanks but I want to keep it Ford (International). Besides, if you go to the pre-powerstroke forum and check out dave' 6.9 you would never want to use anything else.

 

yes you are right on proof for fuel injection in the diesel motor, but look at the old school 12 valve cummins, the chevy 6.2, and the international 6.9. They use MECHANICAL fuel injection where you do not have a computer, multiple sensors and actuators, as well as hundreds of feet of wire and connections to make them run consistantly, or at all. Its a simple system. There isnt even an ignition system in the sense that an external electrical force is required for combustion. Diesel motors run on the premise of the heat in the cylinder and the amount of compression alone ignites the fuel/air mixture.

All intakes are not the same. The major difference in the mustang 5.0L intake and the truck 5.0L intake is the size and length of the runners. The mustang has shorter, fatter runners to build power in the middle and the top of the rpm range because it is a lighter vehicle that doesn't need the low end torque numbers to get rolling and it needs to horsepower to achieve the faster speeeds. The truck intake has longer, skinnier runners to create the power down low in the rpm range to have the heavier loads get rolling faster.

And as for www.fordfuelinjection.com, it is a wonderful site and has helped me through my 302 swap into my 92 F150. The specific information on that site is also tailored to the late 80's-early 90's mustang mass air style of fuel injection which was later somewhat used in the late production years of the 90's style trucks.

And you are most definetly right that alot of the rock crawler guys do use propane and some use throttle bodie style fuel injections systems. But will the throttle bodie swap or a propane system style satisfy the emmissions requirements of that truck?

 

Most people for some reason do all their mods for the top end for some reason and a lot of them run them up in the high rpm's, Of course that is why they are breaking driveshafts, rear ends, etc. If you check out most of my posts I am a torque guy and I always tell people to build their motors for torque, do they? I don't think maybe half listen to me. There are way too many mustang motor swaps into broncos for my liking!!
Fuel injection to carb swaps are big no nos in any state since it is a federal law thing down here!! even if it meets the pollution numbers at a testing station it is looked at as original emissions equipment, and any removal or modification is unlawful,But I think where the OP lives and where I live there is no emissions or vehicle inspections, So we could get away with it more than likely!! Unless D.O.T. pulled you over. There are plus and minus to both systems but for most of the conditions I run in, fuel injection is what I need I usually drive at angles I shouldn't(Yes we have hills in Florida!!) I need a roll bar bad!! I prefer speed density to MAF, Because I do alot of water crossings, and more than once have found water in my intake system even though I have it up high sometimes I get carried away thinking it is a boat!! All the diesels in class 8 trucks have all kinds of sensors and crap and they are fine with 500,000 miles on the
system without no problems, The last Mack I drove I put 278,000+ miles on it, it was a 2004 CV with the ami370 with all the computer controls, The only problem with the trucks was the ABS the sensor rings kept falling off the hub and then it would chew up the sensor, If you want a high power motor swap that motor in!! It is a crazy motor you have to keep it above 1300rpm or else it falls on it's face, alot of guys bring them up to 2200 rpm to shift but the hp peak is at 1800rpm, I would walk away from the other guys and they couldn't figure out why!! Shifting at a lower rpm(peak hp point) and using the jake brake to shift it almost felt like a Pick up truck when empty just with a 16 foot bed!!
That truck would hit 85mph with a quickness I wrote the times down somewhere but I can't find it or I would post the actual numbers!! I think it was 410hp at 1800 rpm and 1600ftlbs at 1500rpms I love them Mack transmissions with the 6 speed reverse doing 35 mph in reverse is a weird feeling!! Kenpo how do you know how ugly I am man? I think komatsu track hoes use international motors, If you look around in a heavy equipment junk yard I am sure you'll find the motor you want!!

 

Not sure what you mean bout the ugly thing? But one of the main reasons for wanting to use the ford truck stuff is so that I can do a complete truck to truck swap. This will include engine, tranny, transcase, and axles. It wil be 3/4 OR 1ton when I am done. I plan to box the entire frame. I will then have all the torque I will ever need and at real low rpms. Besides the fact it will be a one of a kind here in northern kentucky.

 

In Your sig RIP Ugly blue beast!!! hahaha!! I thought I left my web cam on and you saw me!! Regular auto junkyard's charge alot of money for a diesel motor around here! Check around a heavy equipment yard, You will probably be suprised what you find!! I would like to put a loader frame under a pick up truck body for a off road truck If I figure out how to make it look good, maybe make the front of the bed rounded or something. Don't BOX the frame your fists will look like hamburger!!
JK!! Get another frame for the truck and weld it to the outside of your existing frame
it will be boxed pretty much but double the strength, traditional boxing gives you just a bit more strength than original, It would be easier to weld up to the outside and stronger because it is a continuous run, boxing would leave weak points where cross members are on the inside rails. This guy I used to know had a vette body on a fullsize
Blazer frame doubled like that man it looked strong as a tank. Now back to the regular programming, I guess no comeback for the big rigs running hundreds of thousands of miles with computer controlled injection?? My bronce has over 300k miles and a lot of the sensors were original or whoever I got it from took it to the
dealer, Because everything was stamped ford when I got it!!

 

No come back?! Thats funny buddy. But no where was I talking about the questionable longevity of a system, simple or not, in its intended designed use. And when did we skip from trail trucks that get modified from stock so the reliablilty of components balance is now tipped, to big rigs that are designed to haul big loads, take big power and be relaible? Its a matter of the simpler the systems, the less things to fail. Murphy's law 101: If it can go wrong, it will. What would be easier to fix and in a short period of time than a system that has less components to fail? If it never fails then great, but if it does then your pretty much screwed.