GCVWR Changes?
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GCVWR Changes?
We pull a fifth wheel trailer with our 2006 F350 PS 4X4 SRW and GROSS COMBINED VEHICLE WEIGHT is a factor of concern. A Salesman told me today that there were recent changes to the F350 GCVWR dual rear wheel trucks with the 4:10 axle ratio. I looked at the Ford web site capacities and do not see any changes there. Anyone know of any increases that came out recently?
Any info would be appreciated.
Bill
Any info would be appreciated.
Bill
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How can you tell when a salesman is lying?
His lips are moving.
The GCWR on your door sticker is your legal weight. It doesn't change.
He might be confused by the added capacity of the 2008 Super Duty trucks, but that has nothing to do with your truck.
His lips are moving.
The GCWR on your door sticker is your legal weight. It doesn't change.
He might be confused by the added capacity of the 2008 Super Duty trucks, but that has nothing to do with your truck.
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I agree with Redford. These salesmen will tell you anything to move a unit. After doing alot of research here and RV.Net I decided against a large fiver that would be way over my GVCWR. After I weighed my truck I found out that the heaviest I could LEGALLY tow is 12000 lbs. That really narrowed the field down for us.
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The GCVWR is a performance rating from the manufacturer not a *Legal* rating.
It is also NOT a safety rating. Towing or hauling ANYTHING is less safe then not in most cases.
How much you can gross is determinded by the state & how you register your truck.
It is also NOT a safety rating. Towing or hauling ANYTHING is less safe then not in most cases.
How much you can gross is determinded by the state & how you register your truck.
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I goofed, I was looking at a 2008 F350 DRW and the salesman said that Ford recently upped the GCVWR from 23500 lbs. to 24900 lbs. on the F350 dually. I was wondering if anyone else heard anything about this. I realize my '06 is rated at 23000 lbs. and that hasn't changed. The door tag only gives the GVWR of 11400 lbs. and the axle ratings.
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Originally Posted by Leader
The GCVWR is a performance rating from the manufacturer not a *Legal* rating.
It is also NOT a safety rating. Towing or hauling ANYTHING is less safe then not in most cases.
How much you can gross is determinded by the state & how you register your truck.
It is also NOT a safety rating. Towing or hauling ANYTHING is less safe then not in most cases.
How much you can gross is determinded by the state & how you register your truck.
I guess the real question becomes "What is acceptable performance?" Does that mean that if it is acceptable to me to top a hill 10 mph slower, I can tote a bigger trailer?
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Originally Posted by glsurratt
Got to agree with Leader on this one. When I bought my Dodge in 1998, the brochure had a line in the fine print at the bottom of the weight charts that said "These numbers are based on providing acceptable performance with a vehicle properly equipped."
I guess the real question becomes "What is acceptable performance?" Does that mean that if it is acceptable to me to top a hill 10 mph slower, I can tote a bigger trailer?
I guess the real question becomes "What is acceptable performance?" Does that mean that if it is acceptable to me to top a hill 10 mph slower, I can tote a bigger trailer?
Getting it rolling it the easy part, stopping it quick is where it gets dicey. I'm going to call my insurance agent Monday and ask him. I'll post my findings.
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Originally Posted by jetdoc
Getting it rolling it the easy part, stopping it quick is where it gets dicey. I'm going to call my insurance agent Monday and ask him. I'll post my findings.
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Originally Posted by jetdoc
Getting it rolling it the easy part, stopping it quick is where it gets dicey. I'm going to call my insurance agent Monday and ask him. I'll post my findings.
As for insurance, they pay if you are drunk and/or speeding, why wouldn't they pay if you are 100% legal but just over some manufacturers recommendations?
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I believe it was the 2006 Ford Towing Guide has the following information which few drivers consider:
"Frontal area is the total area in square feet that a moving vehicle and trailer exposes to air resistance. The chart shows the limitations that must be considered in selecting a vehicle/trailer combination. Exceeding these limitations may significantly reduce the performance of your towing vehicle. Selecting a trailer with a low-drag, rounded front design will help optimize performance and fuel economy."
A Ford Superduty (F-250, 350, 450 and 550) all have a limit of 60 square feet. That means that your 8 foot wide truck and trailer should only be 7 1/2 feet tall.
"Frontal area is the total area in square feet that a moving vehicle and trailer exposes to air resistance. The chart shows the limitations that must be considered in selecting a vehicle/trailer combination. Exceeding these limitations may significantly reduce the performance of your towing vehicle. Selecting a trailer with a low-drag, rounded front design will help optimize performance and fuel economy."
A Ford Superduty (F-250, 350, 450 and 550) all have a limit of 60 square feet. That means that your 8 foot wide truck and trailer should only be 7 1/2 feet tall.
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Originally Posted by glsurratt
I believe it was the 2006 Ford Towing Guide has the following information which few drivers consider:
"Frontal area is the total area in square feet that a moving vehicle and trailer exposes to air resistance. The chart shows the limitations that must be considered in selecting a vehicle/trailer combination. Exceeding these limitations may significantly reduce the performance of your towing vehicle. Selecting a trailer with a low-drag, rounded front design will help optimize performance and fuel economy."
A Ford Superduty (F-250, 350, 450 and 550) all have a limit of 60 square feet. That means that your 8 foot wide truck and trailer should only be 7 1/2 feet tall.
"Frontal area is the total area in square feet that a moving vehicle and trailer exposes to air resistance. The chart shows the limitations that must be considered in selecting a vehicle/trailer combination. Exceeding these limitations may significantly reduce the performance of your towing vehicle. Selecting a trailer with a low-drag, rounded front design will help optimize performance and fuel economy."
A Ford Superduty (F-250, 350, 450 and 550) all have a limit of 60 square feet. That means that your 8 foot wide truck and trailer should only be 7 1/2 feet tall.
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Originally Posted by Leader
And thats no more a "Law" then the GVWR or GCWR. If you haul a trailer with a frontal area greater then 60 sq et, your insurence will still pay.
