After months of searching and participating in several threads about the subject of how to keep Diesel Kleen (or any other additive) in a bottle, I found the sturdy, long term solution. Here's the sad part... it was right under our noses all along!!

After the latest thread about this quest for a leak-proof bottle, I began searching again for a solution. The one-piece aluminum fuel bottles had, until now, seemed to be the ultimate bottle, but you can see through it and meter your dosages very accurately.

Enough chatter...

Last week, I finally turned over a Diesel Kleen bottle and, to my surprise, found that the bottle is made of HDPE... a plastic that has been around for years!

With my searches for HDPE bottles, it was easy to find the wide mouth bottles that were graduated (for dosing measurements), but it gets sort of sloppy trying to pour into the fuel filler tube from a wide mouth bottle. It was much harder to find a narrow mouth graduated HDPE bottle, but I finally found them, and they are made by Nalgene.

Here's the link. $5.50 each for quarts, and $4.58 each for pints.
http://www.buckscountyoutfitters.com...-Loop-Top-1pt/

Below is a picture of the bottles I received. When I got them and turned them over to check for the correct material (because they looked different from the advertisement on the web page), they were stamped as UVPE instead of HDPE. Turns out that it is just another acronym for the same material.

Anyway, now I can keep half a gallon of additive, dose it accurately, pour it in without spillage because of the narrow mouth, not be able to drop the bottle cap (because it is looped onto the bottled), and at teh same time know that the bottles are tough and chemically compatible with my additives.

Hope this helps some of you folks who, like me, get tired of having to replace the "off-the-shelf" bottles after using them for a while.

Oh... one more benefit of these bottle sI got... there is no liner in the lid to either lose or wear out... it is simply a snug, leak-proof fit.

 

Oh wow, Nalgene bottles. We have those at work in the plating shop.

Cool!

 

Yeah.... that's what kills me about my searching. I've worked with HDPE bottles in labs for years, just never knew that the DK bottles were the same material.

I should have learned by now that "reverse engineering" was the way to go by identifying the DK bottle material from the get-go, but I spun my wheels searching for chemical compatibility charts and trying to match up a variety of chemicals with compatibile plastics.

Oh well... they're riding in my truck with me from now on... full and ready for use.

 

FWIW, Schaeffers' fuel additive comes in a pint bottle which has a neck that fits perfectly into the hole. One pint treats a whopping 125 gallons. I choose to up the dosage to one for two tankfulls, 70-80 gallons.

 

I buy stanadine performance in 1/2 gal bottle's and refill the small bottle's of the same product that I started using 5 year's ago when I bought my 2002 7.3,never had them leak???? and they have been refilld countless time's.

 

Hey Kris... have you seen any difference in mileage with the Schaeffer product? Since I switched over to the Stanadyne Performance Formula, my mileage has dropped about 0.5 mpg in comparison to what I was getting with the DK, but I'm not sure if it's the SPF, the switch to the Schaeffer oil (from Amsoil), combination of the two, or something else going on. It's taking some time, but I'm ruling things out little by little (like the EBPV sensor and tubing).

That's good to hear about the SPF bottles, poppie. I've heard folks say the same about a few other products as well, but it seems like DK uses cheaper bottles and they don't hold up as well.

 

...........I do not fill them totaly to the top,I stop just at the bottom of the neck and squeeze them slightly and tighten the cap,put's it under a little vacume,maybe that's why mine never leak???.

 

No, pete i don't normally keep track of my mileage. I never drive consistent enough for a good measurement, plus i never drive mileage conscious now. I drove ~10 miles to my grandma's house to pick up her mail while she was away, and on the way back the fuel gauge moved down almost 1/16. No mosquitoes in that area!

Oh anyway, the engine does feel a wee bit stronger since i changed to 9000 and used the additive.

 

The dieseltreat 200 ranked very high on the list of additives, higher then stanadyne and dieselclean..

Did you get the new formual 9000 the CJ4 approved?

Its great oil...One of the best...

 

I believe i did, or i sure hope. 12 gallons is going to last me a while. I dont think ive changed the oil 5 times since i had the truck...07/05.

 

Good find! thanks for sharing

 

Nalgene bottles huh? Interesting idea. I've got the Schaeffer's in a gallon jug (treats 2000 gallons of diesel!), which is a little more concentrated than what's in the pints. IMO, it's the better buy, at just under $40 a gallon. I got a case of 4 gallons, which will treat 8000 total gallons of fuel for about $120 and sold the other 3 gallons to my friends. I checked the case of 24 pints, like Kris got, and it's about the same total price, but it treats only 3000 total gallons for that case. The gallon should last me approximately one year. Oh, and my mileage did go up about 1.5 MPG compared to no additive at all.

Anyway, the gallon jug of the 2000 doesn't leak as bad as the DK did, but it's not perfect either. The Nalgene bottle is an awesome idea, and I know they're tough as nails. I've had one for about 5 years that I use as a water bottle, it's been through he!! and back, and it still doesn't leak. I would call it nearly indestructable. I actually tried to kill it one night by throwing it as hard as I could agains a brick wall, full of water. It just bounced off the wall, then 20ft to the ground, bounced again and didn't crack or leak. I was impressed. I got mine at a local outdoors shop here in town.

 

are you sure it didn't have more than just water in it, jeremy?

 

Pete,

Here is a cut/paste from a previous post I submitted. Not sure how to set up a link to it so I pasted it below. It's been over 2 years with the original bottles and no leaks so far.

"Look for my post about COORS LITE. Plastic long neck bottles are 16 OZ. and hold up to diesel additive. Has a screw cap with plastic seal. Long neck of bottle works as a great funnel for tank filler neck. DO NOT overtighten the screw cap. If you do you will a pair of pliers to open it!

From my post back in 10/05:
Here's the CL connection. I buy DK in the 96 oz. botttle. The new CL PLASTIC BOTTLES are 16 oz. Long Necks with a screw top just like a soda bottle. Clean the bottles, peel the label, wash label glue off with hot water and fill just to the bottom of the neck with DK. Screw top has a good seal and the long neck is a big plus. It's like a built in funnel! Soda bottles are OK too, but they don't have the long neck."

Hope this helps. Ernie

 

Good input, Ernie... thanks.

I know what you're talking about with the 'stronger feel" since switching to the Shaeffer 9000, because I feel the same in mine. I think I got my oil changed only about one week ahead of yours, Kris, but I like what seems to be going on in the engine. I debated about switching to the Schaeffer fuel additive at the same time, but had been wanting to try the Stanadyne, too. Once I finish my lest half gallon bottle of SPF, I'll be moving on to the Schaeffer additive for a good run on it. I still want to make another run on the DK with this batch of Schaeffer oil, too, just to confirm my mileage drop since changing to the SPF, but I may forego that effort if the Schaeffer gives the same results.