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I have 2 questions and didn't want to start 2 new threads so I'm doing a 2 for 1.
First as some here may know i just had my '66 352 rebuilt and bored.30 over, recently I've been having starter problems. When I drove my truck into town,about 10 miles, to get gas I shut the truck off and when I went to re-start the truck it cranked really, really slow and didn't want to start. The battery is new and I probably should have replaced the starter when it was rebuilt. I did notice that when I had trouble starting it the positive battery cable was really hot. I put headers on the truck and was wondering if this might be creating too much heat under the hood. when the truck is cold it fires right up with no problems but after I drive it 10 or so miles at 55-60 it acts up again. Any suggestions are as always greaty appreciated.
My second question is a simple one anyone have any idea what a stock set of exhaust manifolds from a 352 are worth ???
First as some here may know i just had my '66 352 rebuilt and bored.30 over, recently I've been having starter problems. When I drove my truck into town,about 10 miles, to get gas I shut the truck off and when I went to re-start the truck it cranked really, really slow and didn't want to start. The battery is new and I probably should have replaced the starter when it was rebuilt. I did notice that when I had trouble starting it the positive battery cable was really hot. I put headers on the truck and was wondering if this might be creating too much heat under the hood. when the truck is cold it fires right up with no problems but after I drive it 10 or so miles at 55-60 it acts up again. Any suggestions are as always greaty appreciated.
My second question is a simple one anyone have any idea what a stock set of exhaust manifolds from a 352 are worth ???
Last edited by buckrogers; Sep 20, 2007 at 11:53 AM. Reason: correct spelling
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Buck, Check your cables for corrosion. Make sure that you have a good ground to the engine block. Battery cables are pretty inexpensive to replace, and if you do buy the largest size that you can afford.
About $15.00 a piece is what they bring on the street, you can ask more if you like.
John
About $15.00 a piece is what they bring on the street, you can ask more if you like.
John
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thanks JoW, the cables look pretty good as far as corrosion but I was wondering if they were the proper size, they seem small to me. I did notice that the cable insulation from the relay to the starter is cracked. I just don't want to replace a starter if that's not the problem. I'll go ahead and do the cables, it's like you said they're inexpensive. My curiosity is the fact that the problem just started 2 day's ago and prior to that I had no problem. Someone suggested that because it's a new, (rebuilt), motor that it may have put too much strain on an "old" starter and made it "wear" out. Make any sense to you ???
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I think you are getting heat soak from your headers. When I did mine I bought a new starter and got ceramic coated headers. I still get some drag from time to time cause them things get hot! Replacing the starter with headers is a pain!!!
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Starter heat shields and wraps are available from Jeg's, Summit, etc. I'd try one of those soon, before the starter gives up completely.
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I remember back when I was a little younger I had a '66 flare side with a 352 that had headers and it seemed I was alway's changing that starter. I looked at the heat shield on Summit's web site, I too figured I needed one. I have been driving this truck for about 3 weeks now after the rebuild and as stated above have just now started having problems. What I can't figure out is why would the headers affect the starter now and not before ??
Thanks to EVERYONE for the input !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thanks to EVERYONE for the input !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Originally Posted by buckrogers
what is starter drag and how is it corrected ???
Another thing, I believe you said new rebuild, your timing can be off and add to that issue as well. IMHO
John
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Thanks JW, I'm not a mechanic by any stretch of the imagination so that's why I'm here. I am somewhat mechanical,(I'm a Plumber by trade), and can read and understand instructions. I checked the timing and it's good. I'm going to pick up a starter heat shield and I thought about wrapping the one header pipe next to the starter to help with the heat issue. I GREATLY appreciate all the help I get here, I also want to apologize for any "dumb" questions I may post from time to time, I generally try to do a search to see if my question has been asked and answered here before.
Thanks again for all the help !!!!!
Thanks again for all the help !!!!!
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Buck Headers kill starters because they usually pass by the starter much closer than stock exhaust pipe. They also radiate much more heat. If you compare the surface area of a set of headers to the stock exhaust pipe you get the idea of how much more radiant heat they give off. One trick you can try is to trim the lower part of the inner fender to give the heat a place to go along with the already mentioned remedees. I would recomend using 1/O(one/ott) arc welding cable for battery and starter cables.