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Sep 8, 2007 | 12:28 AM

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unreng

Mountain Pass

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02Taco,

After checking the http://www.dezertrangers.com/vb/show...t=56201&page=4 site, it appears that the participants believed/knew the land to be off-limits to vehicular activity (I'm still checking to determine why it's off-limits and where exactly on the map it's located). Why would you want to participate in a supposedly illegal activity (even as a passenger)?

Here's the local BLM http://www.blm.gov/ca/st/en/fo/elcentro.html

BLM map - http://www.blm.gov/style/medialib/bl...m_land_own.pdf
(jamul, ca is on the left side of the map near the sea green NWR)

BLM El Centro recreation - http://www.blm.gov/ca/st/en/fo/elcen...reation.1.html

BLM El Centro OHV - http://www.blm.gov/ca/st/en/fo/elcen...tion/ohvs.html

BLM Imperial Sand Dunes - http://www.blm.gov/ca/st/en/fo/elcen...hvs/isdra.html

CA OHV Parks - http://ohv.parks.ca.gov/?page_id=1170

Hollenbeck Canyon Wildlife Management Area - http://www.dfg.ca.gov/lands/mgmtplans/hcwa/

Rancho Jamul Ecological Reserve - http://www.dfg.ca.gov/lands/er/regio...jamul/map.html

San Diego National Wildlife Refuge - http://www.fws.gov/sandiegorefuges/new/ccp2/ccp2.htm

More information here about off-road closures- http://www.dirtfirst.com/blm-sellout-2001.htm

It appears that you need to head further east to play on public land, of which there seems to be a large quantity. Next time, take a weekend and enjoy a more peaceful, non law enforcement trip.

Chris
Reno, NV

Sep 8, 2007 | 12:45 AM

#17

justshootme84

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From: SE Texas

I have no sympathy for you if you and your "buds" were wheeling on Federal land and got busted. Check out the "Tread Lightly" campaing, and you'll see why. Consider yourself extremely lucky that everyone didn't get a ticket/fine for being out there. YEs, it's a shame that alot of us don't have access to local spots to "tear it up' like the pics show. Hope you didn't kill any endangered cactus plants... (sarcasm). Get involved in saving the trails for offroad use, or we'll lose ALL access. JSM84

Sep 8, 2007 | 03:07 AM

#18

fishmanndotcom

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From: Senoia, GA

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Originally Posted by 02Taco

I did learn a lesson.....just because it doesnt say "no offroad activity" doesnt mean its allowed either. no more flaming please....

man, i dont want you think i was flaming you. i really wasnt, however when a post is created with the title "got busted for wheelin" it just starts it off with a bad vibe. i'm glad you had fun, sorry you got in trouble but i am also glad you learned! offroad enthusiasts (such as myself) are under attack every day, trails get closed everyday. the more evidence we give the tree huggers the worse off we are. like i said.... next time make sure you have written permission by the owner of the land. not only that but take care of it, pick up trash, clean up any mess, leave the guys land better than it looked. i know it sounds corny, but every little bit helps. i hope you keep coming back here with more stories and pics but of trips that are legal!

and BTW unreng.... i got the e-mail from pirate as well! i noticed you pulled some of your info from it. good timing! and JUST FOR YOU.... to help be informative, here is the e-mail in full.

"As you know, I rarely send emails to all of you. However this is of extreme importance!

U.S. Forest Service Land Use Restrictions Imminent

Did you know that our access to the entire United States Forest from coast to coast is in jeopardy?!?!?!
We are at DEFCON FIVE with the environmentalists and the U.S. Forest Service!

Now is the time to act!!!

I am very proud of the readers of P irate4x4.com lately. Our Land Use forums have doubled in traffic over the past couple of months due to the outrageousness of what is going on out there. If you haven't been to our Land Use forums lately, I challenge you to take a look. I guarantee you will get pissed off! When I saw the Draft Plan the Forest Service put out for travel management on the Eldorado National Forest (where I happen to live, and where the world famous Rubicon Trail is) that was the last straw for me. I got pissed off and decided to do something about it.

And it isn't just the Eldorado National Forest. Travel management planning is going on in everyone's backyard whether it's Forest Service or BLM. Anti-access extremists are out in force pressing for closures everywhere. Tellico is threatened by an anti-access lawsuit. Moab access is threatened by overzealous BLM planning. Wilderness bills are rampant in Congress. Roadless area management is still being pushed in the courts. Even the little recreation that there is available in our Parks is still under attack. Check out the fight in Yellowstone.

It really is time to put up or shut up. I threw down the challenge last month to donate in the forums, and we were able to raise about $8,000 for BRC. While that is fantastic, I think we can do a lot better. Remember, without folks like the BLUERIBBON COALITION fighting for our rights to use public land, we might as well take up basket weaving. Join the Blue Ribbon Coalition and donate to the BRC Legal Fund. The beauty of BRC is they combine all the user groups into one big fist. I stuck $500 of my own money in the fight and you need to do what you can. If it's $20 or $5000, anything helps!!

While you are at it, get busy with your local club. Local involvement is where BRC does some of its best work. If you don't belong to a club, get off your butt and join one. You really CAN make a difference!

You can join BRC and donate to BRC Legal Fund online at a secure web location, set up just for P irate4x4 at http://join.sharetrails.org . It only took me just a couple of minutes. If you aren't comfortable with that, then call them at 1-800-BlueRib. If you can't afford to do both, at least join BRC now and donate when you can afford it.

The members of P irate4x4 can and will make a difference!

Lance Clifford
P irate4x4.com"

-cutts-