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Old Aug 28, 2007 | 07:20 PM
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degree a cam

Is there a way to tell how your cam is degreed, while in the truck? Possibly without removeing the timing cover? Also, How do you degree in a cam? I know I read how once, but canot find the book again. The reason I ask is I don't think my 400 has the snot it should. Wonder if I set the cam correctly. Double checking cam specs right now.
 
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Old Aug 29, 2007 | 07:43 PM
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should be theoretically possible to check it out if you pull the balancer off and get your degree wheel on the crank snout, and pull the passenger side valve cover and set up your dial indicator. use a piston stop tool to find TDC and make a pointer. as long as you can see the pointer on the degree wheel accurately? most of the cam manufacturers, comp, crane..., have instructions on how to do it correctly on their websites.

what cam do you have in it and how are your timing gears set?

does your cam card specify that there is advance ground in? it might be even if it doesn't say, call the manufacturers tech line and ask them specifically for your grind and part number.
 
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Old Aug 30, 2007 | 05:41 PM
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Cam card does not say. I Shot Isky an email, but nothing back. Guess I'll have to call. My timing gears are set to 0 deg. if the cam is ground to 0. Cam is an Isky 256 supercam. Also tried to look up specs. to compare the ramp to the xe256, but couldn't find anything on the comp site. If anyone has a link, I would like to look at it. Would being too advanced hurt off the line? That's where I think I'm weak.
 
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Old Aug 31, 2007 | 05:23 PM
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advanced will help off the line.
 
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Old Aug 31, 2007 | 06:06 PM
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We use to have a way to do this at the track. It has been 10 years but here is what I remember. You will need a dial indicater however and preferrably a magnetic base.


  1. Put masking tape on the balancer
  2. verify TDC #1 with a dead stop
  3. mark this on tape on balancer
  4. turn cam to .050 specs on intake and mark position on tape. Make sure to note opening mark and closing mark
  5. do same for exaust. Note marks again, marks separate from Intake (ex put EVO next to exaust valve opens mark).
  6. Remove tape and apply to a flat surface
  7. Measure the diameter of the balancer.
  8. Diameter x Pi (3.14) equalls the circumfrence. Divide the Circumfrence by 360.The results gives you how many inches per degree.
  9. Measure how far either before or after the TDC mark your valve timing marks are Convert fraction to decimal and divide it by how many inches are in a degree (figure from number 8)
An example

Lets say we have a 9 inch diameter harmonic balancer. 9*pi =28.26 inches. Divide that by 360 degrees in a circle and we get .0786 inches. If the mark for the intake valve was 1 15/16th before TDC. 1 15/16 = 1.9375. Divide that by .0786 and we get 26.6 degrees before TDC.
 
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Old Aug 31, 2007 | 08:43 PM
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sounds like what you're doing there is mapping the cam, or finding the duration for the intake and exhaust?
 
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Old Aug 31, 2007 | 10:28 PM
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Originally Posted by grclark351
sounds like what you're doing there is mapping the cam, or finding the duration for the intake and exhaust?

You cound call it that, but if you have the cam card and you can get the .050 measurements off the balancer, you can see where the cam is at.
 
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Old Sep 6, 2007 | 05:30 PM
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Called Isky today. 2deg. adv. ground in. WTF. Why?!!?! Maybe I should just buy the xe256 and be done with it. Then I know it's not the cam. Would being 2deg. adv. have anything to do with my high rpm/high load pinging?
 
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Old Sep 7, 2007 | 06:03 PM
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Most companies grind their cams 4 deg advanced to account for chain stretch as the motor wears.
 
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