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Old Aug 22, 2007 | 03:05 PM
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My 95 F250 has been driving me nuts. I just gave it a tune up with new everything on the secondary ignition system and set the timing. It seemed to have more power for a while, but now is acting just like it did before. I was going to check the timing again to see if it changed. I was going up a approx. 7% grade in 4th gear (1:1 with 4.10 rear) unloaded, and it couldn't keep up. It was losing speed. My old diesel could gain speed on that hill.

Also, when starting, it misses for a few seconds until it finally fires on all the cylinders and takes off. I kill it all the time because I start to go and it misses and dies on me. If I rev it and wait a minute, it's fine.

I have a new exhaust on here and a new air filter as well. It does it on both tanks which must rule out a fuel problem, right?
 
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Old Aug 23, 2007 | 07:57 PM
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doing it on both tank wouldnt rule out fuel issues. the fuel filter operates for both tanks as do the injectors. i would say its time to start looking to clean your injectors and get a new fuel filter, i'm guessing you replaced your plugs. bad plugs and dirty injectors/ filter could cause missing
 
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Old Aug 23, 2007 | 09:56 PM
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Has the check engine light ever been on? Ever? If so you need to pull the codes and find out what the computer saw.
 
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Old Aug 24, 2007 | 09:14 AM
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Has the check engine light ever been on? Ever? If so you need to pull the codes and find out what the computer saw.
no CEL since I've had it. Only light is ABS light. It doesn't like the LED taillights I put in. I have a resistor to put in there.
 
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Old Aug 24, 2007 | 09:17 AM
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doing it on both tank wouldnt rule out fuel issues. the fuel filter operates for both tanks as do the injectors. i would say its time to start looking to clean your injectors and get a new fuel filter, i'm guessing you replaced your plugs. bad plugs and dirty injectors/ filter could cause missing

A fuel problem like that wouldn't clear up after running though.
 
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Old Aug 24, 2007 | 09:27 AM
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Also, when starting, it misses for a few seconds until it finally fires on all the cylinders and takes off. I kill it all the time because I start to go and it misses and dies on me. If I rev it and wait a minute, it's fine.
You got a vacuum leak, could be anything from a broken/cracked line to a rusted vacuum canister to a leaking brake booster or something inside the dash.
 
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Old Aug 24, 2007 | 09:39 AM
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You got a vacuum leak, could be anything from a broken/cracked line to a rusted vacuum canister to a leaking brake booster or something inside the dash.
Very interesting theory. I have been thinking I may have a vacuum leak as well. What does this do to make it miss though?
 
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The stock EFI system can only operate properly with a relatively stable vacuum signal, this is the main reason a lumpy cam won't work in these trucks, the low rpm vacuum signal is too weak and the computer can't control the motor.

I had an '89 truck with a similar problem. Even warmed up it would just stall occasionally just as you lean into the throttle off a stop light. If it didn't stall it would chug for a moment and then take off like normal. Turns out it had a pretty major vacuum leak from a rusted out vacuum canister(coffee can).
 

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