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Old Aug 14, 2007 | 01:28 PM
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98 E 350 not charging. Battery and alt test okay but when you put the battery tester on the battery running or not it reads what the batteries got in it.

Before I going yanking wires, is there a maxi fuse assiociated with it the alt?

I'd check the owners manual for the map put it is not in the van.
 

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98 E 350 not charging. Battery and alt test okay but when you put the battery tester on the battery running or not it reads what the batteries got in it.

Before I going yanking wires, is there a maxi fuse assiociated with it the alt?

I'd check the owners manual for the map put it is not in the van.
You have fuse#23 a 60 Amp fuse in the engine fuse box that feeds the Ignition switch and fuse #14 a 5Amp fuse for the "I" point on the generator and the rest are fuse links.

Here is a diagram.
 

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Old Aug 14, 2007 | 01:58 PM
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I don't have the owner's manual to tell me which are which in the fuse box under the hood. Tried pulling all the maxi fuses to have a look but they all seem fine.
 
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Old Aug 14, 2007 | 02:05 PM
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The little number in the diagram above should be the fuse number. The 60 amp should be fuse #23. The 5 amp should be fuse #14 in the fuse box under the dash. The fusible links will be located over near the starter solenoid(relay).
 
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Old Aug 14, 2007 | 02:12 PM
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Old Aug 14, 2007 | 02:14 PM
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Thanx for the diagram I'll have another try after work.
 
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Old Aug 14, 2007 | 06:56 PM
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Okay the 23 maxi fuse and 14 under the dash fuse both okay.

Also the dash gauge shows the alt as charging, but there is a red battery light lit.
 
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Old Aug 14, 2007 | 07:30 PM
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Okay the 23 maxi fuse and 14 under the dash fuse both okay.

Also the dash gauge shows the alt as charging, but there is a red battery light lit.
Not sure how it says it is charging with the light on but OK.
You need to get a test light (not a meter) and check the back of the generator with the key on.
See if it lights at the B+, I and A points on the back of the Generator.
It should light at all points, if one is missing it will not charge.
Take a meter with the engine off and see what your battery voltage is.
Start the engine and the voltage should slowly come up to about 13.5 Volts or a little more. If it does this it is charging.
 
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Old Aug 14, 2007 | 09:32 PM
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With a meter on the battery it drops slightly with the van running (no surprise)

I'll put a test light on it an see what it does. There are 4 terminals on the back.

One for the batt, and thin wire alone, and a grouping of two. I'll try them all.

The only other thing I did was use dialectric grease on the terminnals when I reinstalled the alt, but I can't see how that would have made a difference.

Now I wonder if it was the alt to begin with, and not something else.
 
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The "S" points may not light the test light.
 
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Old Aug 15, 2007 | 09:07 AM
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The only one that lit was the batt terminal., but like I said the alt tested good the parts shop.

The fusable links are an inline fuse outside of the distribution box under the hood?
 

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The only one that lit was the batt terminal., but like I said the alt tested good the parts shop.

The fusable links are an inline fuse outside of the distribution box under the hood?
As Dave said above and the Ford manual says Fuse link "C" is "At starter motor relay".
I know that is not what the diagram looks like it says but that is what the book says.

But book also says that splice S1010 & S1011 is at the "RH side of engine compartment, near power distribution box".

It also looks like from what you say that Fuse link "C" & Fuse #14 are open.
 
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Old Aug 15, 2007 | 01:22 PM
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Thanx for the help, but at this point I don't know where the starter motor relay is.

Fuse 14 is fine, both under hood and under dash.

I'd wait for a space at the shop, but the soonest is a week away.

So yellow fusible link is by the starter solenoid which is just next to the battery.
Ran out of lunch hour looking for the brown one.

When I do find it what then? is it like a fuse that will be melted?
 

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Thanx for the help, but at this point I don't know where the starter motor relay is.

Fuse 14 is fine, both under hood and under dash.

I'd wait for a space at the shop, but the soonest is a week away.

So yellow fusible link is by the starter solenoid which is just next to the battery.
Ran out of lunch hour looking for the brown one.

When I do find it what then? is it like a fuse that will be melted?
It says the fuse link is brown in the diagram above.
The fuse link is a short length of wire, smaller in gauge than the wire in the protected circuit. The wire is covered with a thick non-flammable insulation. An overload causes the link to heat and the insulation to blister. If the overload remains, the link will melt, causing an open circuit.
When replacing fuse links, make tight crimp joints or hot solder joints for good connections.
 

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