???????Biggest Designated Winter Tires???????
#47
Originally Posted by mikedeason
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If you don't have the Snowflake on a Mountain Logo embossed on your tire, go to the back of the bus!
Yea, some of the smaller BFG A/T's have it but not the 35's and up and even the smaller BFG A/T's can't compete w/a real Winter Tread.
We talking studless here Jones.
http://www.tirerack.com/images/winte..._snowflake.gif
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If you don't have the Snowflake on a Mountain Logo embossed on your tire, go to the back of the bus!
Yea, some of the smaller BFG A/T's have it but not the 35's and up and even the smaller BFG A/T's can't compete w/a real Winter Tread.
We talking studless here Jones.
http://www.tirerack.com/images/winte..._snowflake.gif
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#48
So what is the difference between the BSW and the RWL that gets a Snowflake On The Mountain?
I e-mailed the Safety Council that hands out the Snowflake On a Mountain Logo, and they told me that the BFG A/T's now use a rubber compound suitable for cold weather and the BFG's passed the heavy snow testing w/flying colors. They ranked lower on braking on hardpacked and ice but still reached the qualifications for a Snowflake On The Mountain Logo.
I will stick w/ a Real WINTER tread since 90% of my winter driving is on hardpacked and ice.
Tires Rated Excellent in Snow
I e-mailed the Safety Council that hands out the Snowflake On a Mountain Logo, and they told me that the BFG A/T's now use a rubber compound suitable for cold weather and the BFG's passed the heavy snow testing w/flying colors. They ranked lower on braking on hardpacked and ice but still reached the qualifications for a Snowflake On The Mountain Logo.
I will stick w/ a Real WINTER tread since 90% of my winter driving is on hardpacked and ice.
Tires Rated Excellent in Snow
- Continental Contact TS-740 (Snow Tire)
- Goodyear F32S (Snow Tire)
- Nokian "Hakkapeliitta" NR09/NR10/NRW/Hakka-1 (Snow Tire)
- Pirelli P77 ("All-Season")
- Pirelli Winter S2 (Snow Tire)
- Semperit M+S (Studded Snow Tire)
- Vredestein Snow+ (Studded Snow Tire) SnowTrac
- Bridgestone Blizzak (non-studded snow tire)
- Dunlop DS-1 Graspic
#49
Originally Posted by mikedeason
So what is the difference between the BSW and the RWL that gets a Snowflake On The Mountain?
I e-mailed the Safety Council that hands out the Snowflake On a Mountain Logo, and they told me that the BFG A/T's now use a rubber compound suitable for cold weather and the BFG's passed the heavy snow testing w/flying colors. They ranked lower on braking on hardpacked and ice but still reached the qualifications for a Snowflake On The Mountain Logo.
I will stick w/ a Real WINTER tread since 90% of my winter driving is on hardpacked and ice.
Tires Rated Excellent in Snow
I e-mailed the Safety Council that hands out the Snowflake On a Mountain Logo, and they told me that the BFG A/T's now use a rubber compound suitable for cold weather and the BFG's passed the heavy snow testing w/flying colors. They ranked lower on braking on hardpacked and ice but still reached the qualifications for a Snowflake On The Mountain Logo.
I will stick w/ a Real WINTER tread since 90% of my winter driving is on hardpacked and ice.
Tires Rated Excellent in Snow
- Continental Contact TS-740 (Snow Tire)
- Goodyear F32S (Snow Tire)
- Nokian "Hakkapeliitta" NR09/NR10/NRW/Hakka-1 (Snow Tire)
- Pirelli P77 ("All-Season")
- Pirelli Winter S2 (Snow Tire)
- Semperit M+S (Studded Snow Tire)
- Vredestein Snow+ (Studded Snow Tire) SnowTrac
- Bridgestone Blizzak (non-studded snow tire)
- Dunlop DS-1 Graspic
BTW, you answered your own question about what the difference is, "...and they told me that the BFG A/T's now use a rubber compound suitable for cold weather and the BFG's passed the heavy snow testing w/flying colors."
I live where there is plenty of snow and will need new winter tires. Do the tires you listed above come in a 33+" tire on a 17" wheel with a load rating of D or higher? I need something with at least a stock load range and size. What can you suggest for tires based on the trucks stock ratings.
Last edited by Ace!; 08-21-2007 at 10:14 PM.
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#51
Originally Posted by mikedeason
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I've seen BSW BFG ko's (not turned out) w/the Snowflake on a Mountain...
I've seen BSW BFG ko's (not turned out) w/the Snowflake on a Mountain...
I'm going to try to buy tires this fall before the snow starts falling. Do the tires you listed above come in a 33+" tire on a 17" wheel with a load rating of D or higher?
#53
Originally Posted by Going_Going_Gone
Just my opinion here. Bigger (as in wider) isn't always better with snow tires. It would appear that you want to stay with 35" OD tires, but a narrower tire will perform better in snow than a "floatation" tire. As others have stated (and illustrated), winter treads have a multitude of smaller grooves with loads of siping for added grip on ice. If you expect to drive a lot on snowy/icy roads, and you can find narrower tires with a winter tread, you will probably be happier than with A/T tires. You don't necessarily want a tire that floats on the snow, but rather one that penetrates down to a harder surface where it can get some grip.
Why is everybody a 'dude'?
#56
Originally Posted by redford
Some of the BFG T/A KO tire sizes are not snow rated, some are.
For instance, the 285/75QR16 states "Not Rated For Severe Snow" on Tirerack.com.
For instance, the 285/75QR16 states "Not Rated For Severe Snow" on Tirerack.com.
I was responding to Mike's comment about BFGoodrich not making the snow rated versions in larger sizes. They do.
#58
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My guess is, it is a matter of stock. They newer tires have a different compound that passes the severe snow rating tests, the older tires didn't. BFG has sold all of the older raised white letter tires so now all new shipments are of new stock that meet the SSR rating. They haven't sold all of thier old stock black lettered tires, so they are still shipping the ones made with the older material. Once stock of those run out they will begin shipping the SSR rated ones in black lettered tires too.