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So if the 6.4 Navstar truck was ranked #1 would you contiue your subscription?? You know this hp & torque goes around and around each year...Dmax's top now, then Ford will step it up and be on top then Cummins will up the ante and on and on..... Ford doesn't lose every truck shootout every year! So the LMM GM truck stacked up a little better this year because of it's powerplant, Ford has something going on, like I have been saying I am betting there will be a new NON-Navstar powerplant in the Ford by 2010!! Mark my words baby!! Ford and Navstar don't seem to be the best of friends and it has been hurting Ford somewhat!
Ok now I am getting off the subject,this is a rabbit trail so read at you own risk (LOL) BUT my take is that Ford when they came out with this new Super Duty could have absolutely rocked the Deisel truck market by using a Cat or a Cummins motor. I say that because the reputation of Cat and Cummins is HUGE! I guarantee had they done that when this 08 Super Duty came out every Dodge and GM guy would dump there trucks and stand in line waiting to buy one of those trucks (including me!!) That new Ford truck is AWESOME! I loved it, it just didn't build much confidence in me due to it's lack of power and MOST OF ALL THE REPUTATION NAVISTAR HAD DUE TO THE 6.0! 7 page Oasis report on my stock 6.0 with 40k miles should be an embarrassment for Navstar and Ford!
Okay I'll shut up now! I go off when it comes to this because I would have bought a new Ford instead of my GM LMM if it had a different diesel manufacturer! Ford are you listening?????
Ok now I am getting off the subject,this is a rabbit trail so read at you own risk (LOL) BUT my take is that Ford when they came out with this new Super Duty could have absolutely rocked the Deisel truck market by using a Cat or a Cummins motor. I say that because the reputation of Cat and Cummins is HUGE! I guarantee had they done that when this 08 Super Duty came out every Dodge and GM guy would dump there trucks and stand in line waiting to buy one of those trucks (including me!!) That new Ford truck is AWESOME! I loved it, it just didn't build much confidence in me due to it's lack of power and MOST OF ALL THE REPUTATION NAVISTAR HAD DUE TO THE 6.0! 7 page Oasis report on my stock 6.0 with 40k miles should be an embarrassment for Navstar and Ford!
Okay I'll shut up now! I go off when it comes to this because I would have bought a new Ford instead of my GM LMM if it had a different diesel manufacturer! Ford are you listening?????
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From: Foothills, CA
I for one wouldn't re-up -- it's not the stock truck reviews that bother me at all -- it's that most of the articles are hop-ups on the diesels, which doesn't interest me (then again, they're being true to their mag's name). Plus it's getting hard to find the content with the pages and pages of ads...
It's great you're happy with your LMM and unfortunate the experience you had with the 6.0 -- I had the opposite experience, having a painful time with the overheating LLY and buying the 6.0 that runs like a dream (and cool). However there is just so much more truck you get for the money in the Ford over the GM, that I'd have ended up here anyway...
Happy trails...
It's great you're happy with your LMM and unfortunate the experience you had with the 6.0 -- I had the opposite experience, having a painful time with the overheating LLY and buying the 6.0 that runs like a dream (and cool). However there is just so much more truck you get for the money in the Ford over the GM, that I'd have ended up here anyway...
Happy trails...
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Originally Posted by Deluxe05
Amen to that. For every dollar they get in subscription fees, they probably make a couple in advertising dollars.
Hell, most of the automotive & motorcycle magazines are this way anymore. They are pretty much just colorful parts brochures for aftermarket products....intermixed with a handful of "tech" articles so that you don't get too bored with the advertising propoganda that just about oozes out of them.
I quit subscribing to three of the more popular four-wheeling magazines when they got bad enough that I could not find two consecutive pages that were not sporting an advertisement. I browsed through a couple diesel mags at one point, and was disappointed to find that they were the same way. Needless to say, none of them came home with me.
Hell, most of the automotive & motorcycle magazines are this way anymore. They are pretty much just colorful parts brochures for aftermarket products....intermixed with a handful of "tech" articles so that you don't get too bored with the advertising propoganda that just about oozes out of them.
I quit subscribing to three of the more popular four-wheeling magazines when they got bad enough that I could not find two consecutive pages that were not sporting an advertisement. I browsed through a couple diesel mags at one point, and was disappointed to find that they were the same way. Needless to say, none of them came home with me.
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From: ROUND ROCK, TEXAS
After getting this months issue im extremely unhappy with diesel power, not one article about a ford any where in there, but they can put some ugly arss dodges in there, and again 50% of the mag is advertisement that sale the same thing. this issue went straight to the puppies litter box. i guess ill have to start reading the wifes cosmo in the john, i can probably find more about ford's in there.
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