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Old Jul 30, 2007 | 12:00 PM
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Question about plug wires...

How much can they affect milage? Also, can they be the cause of engine knock? I know rough idle can be caused by a bad wire(s).

I consistently get 13mpg no matter how hard or easy I drive. I gave a coworker the symptoms and he said that he tought it may need a valve job. Seems a little young to need one already. I know you can't really diagnose over the internet. just looking for some pointers.

Here's what I can tell you.

Milage sucks
engine knock (REALLY bad in cold temps) but sounds more like it's valve noise.
no low end power (if I'm already it highway speeds, I can give it gas and it reponds pretty good).

I'm going to buy the wires at lunch today and replace. Just wanting some more pointers. I don't know much about these "newer" engines but could this be a timing issue? I know with my old '79 Monte Carlo I could move the distributor until the engine ran good, top and bottom end. This thing, not so much. Any help is appreciated. Thanks!
 
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Old Jul 30, 2007 | 12:35 PM
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hi, there is no adjustment needed as the timing is set by the computor. the wires are a good starting point with any of the problems you have. let us know how things work out. bokker.
 
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Old Jul 30, 2007 | 12:43 PM
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Agreed. If plug wires have never been changed, they are due and can cause driveability issues.
I'd go ahead and change plugs too.

Suggestion: stay with Motorcraft wires (and plugs).

No CEL codes I assume or you'd likely have mentioned them.
 
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Old Jul 30, 2007 | 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by BrianA
No CEL codes I assume or you'd likely have mentioned them.
Passed inspection this morning. I was hoping it would fail and give me somewhere to start (autozone wouldn't hook a computer up to it because they asked if the CEL was on and I said no). I bought the wires. Will be changing them out before I leave to go home. I'll see what the drive home is like.

Could wires affect mpg without throwing a code? I would have thought I would have gotten a misfire reading this morning.
 
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Old Jul 30, 2007 | 11:40 PM
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Ended up having to change them after I got home. Took it for a drive afterwards and it seems to be running good. Did not hear the knocking/tapping I heard before. Power seemed to be back to where I would expect it to be. Looks like it was just old wires.
 
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Old Jul 31, 2007 | 01:33 PM
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Well, engine is still running a little rough at idle and the knock is still there. don't know why I didn't hear it yesterday. Anyone know what else I could look for? I just changed the oil (motorcraft 5w30). Any help/ideas are really appreciated.

Oh yeah, who at Ford dreamed up these dang air muffler things on the air intake canisters?
 
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Old Jul 31, 2007 | 06:19 PM
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When were the plugs changed last? Fuel filter? Ever cleaned the throttle body?All these can help improve the idle and gas mileage.Also,if the IAC is dirty it will cause a rough idle.
 
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