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Old Jul 27, 2007 | 10:04 AM
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OCI article.

http://www.usatoday.com/money/autos/...l-change_N.htm

Interesting stuff.
 
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Old Jul 27, 2007 | 10:34 AM
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Porche used be 24k miles!!! Probably came with Amsoil for factory fill.

Toyotos are sludgers.....hence the shorter intervals.
 
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Old Jul 27, 2007 | 11:19 AM
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Shell Lubricants, which owns the Quaker State and Pennzoil oil brands and operates the Jiffy Lube oil-change chain, long ago abandoned its corporatewide 3,000-mile oil-change message.


I just bought a car from a friend who used the local JiffyLube. Stuck in the corner of the windshield was a JiffyLube sticker reminding me that my next oil change was due in 3 months or 3000 miles.
 
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Old Jul 28, 2007 | 07:19 AM
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My 78 Mercury 3.3L has a 7500 mile OCI in it's service manual from Ford, BUT if you fell into the "severe service" catagory, which in truth most folks did, then 3500 OCI's were specified.

I've changed it twice a year with Havoline & a Motorcraft FL-1A filter, engine is still quiet & clean as a pin inside & no oil consumption between changes, with the specified 10W-30.

So it bemuses me to read that Ford has now "increased" their OCI recommendation to 7500 miles!!!! Guess they've forgotten what they were doing 1/3 century ago!!!! lol

I suppose if a particular oil monitoring system were designed & calibrated, such that it could allow for & measure all differnt driving habits, & conditions, or the lubes condition, like base number or, % fuel & maybe estimate or measure solid particle containations, it would be a good idea for most folks, as vehicles engines, driving habits & condtions do vary considerably over the nation, so it's difficult to specify one OCI, to acurately cover all situations.

Think I'd want to know a good deal more about how a particular system works & just how reliable & accurate it is going to be, before I'd totally trust it!!!!
Wonder if Fords system is self monitoring, such that if it fails, it sets a warning light of some sort?????

Will be interesting to see how things shake out. Bet if they turn out to be accurate, this will knock the oil analisis labs buisness in the head, as time goes on!!!!
 
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Old Jul 28, 2007 | 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by pawpaw
So it bemuses me to read that Ford has now "increased" their OCI recommendation to 7500 miles!!!! Guess they've forgotten what they were doing 1/3 century ago!!!! lol
Ford's recommened OCI starting as early as 1964 was 6000 miles.

Heck, the recommended OCI for my 1960 Falcon was 4000 miles.

There were no separate OCI's for normal/severe. One size fits all.

And many, many, many (dare I say most) made it to 100k without a rebuild (with crappy practically non-detergent oils).

Funny how so many people still treat the 3000 OCI like it was brought by Moses down from the mountain carved in stone.
 
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Old Jul 28, 2007 | 04:48 PM
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I must say it is easy to fall into that train of thought.....not too long ago I was a short OCI junkie. But after much research I am more than comfortable going 5k miles and not break a sweat, I want to go up to 10k (kms) on my next fill because it is a nice even number to remember and usually it works out to 2 changes a year.
 
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Old Jul 28, 2007 | 06:29 PM
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I often think I'm probably draining good oil when I change at 5K miles!
One thing I have commented on over the years here at FTE:
It seems that no matter how many UOAs show up, or how many guys go 150,000, 200,000 miles or more, with 5000 or higher OCIs, some folks are just dead set on 3K drain intervals, and some even short OCIs running synthetic.

Oh well, it's their money and their truck.

My truck turned over 100K miles last week.
5K OCI = 20 oil changes
3K OCI = 33 oil changes

at approx $20/change, that is a savings of about $260.
Not a boat load of money, but it is a good chunk of a new set of tires.

Works for me!
 
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Old Jul 29, 2007 | 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by BrianA
My truck turned over 100K miles last week.
5K OCI = 20 oil changes
3K OCI = 33 oil changes

at approx $20/change, that is a savings of about $260.
Not a boat load of money,
And that is most people's justification. "Cheap Insurance".

"Waste of Money", I say.

To each his own.
 
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Old Jul 29, 2007 | 10:35 PM
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5K OCI = 20 oil changes
3K OCI = 33 oil changes
That is 13 times less the dealer/Jiffy Lube/whatever has an opportunity to strip your oil plug/under fill the oil/over fill the oil/forget to fill the oil.



(I'm paranoid so I do all my own service. It takes me forever but at least I know it is done right.)
 
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Old Jul 29, 2007 | 11:48 PM
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And that is most people's justification. "Cheap Insurance".
I agree with you. That is what I have heard most often. My reply is generally "Insurance against what?"

Do you change tires before they are worn out as "insurance"?
 
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Old Aug 2, 2007 | 12:31 AM
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Originally Posted by xtrford
Porche used be 24k miles!!! Probably came with Amsoil for factory fill.

Toyotos are sludgers.....hence the shorter intervals.
if i remember correctly b4 mobil 1 took over porche contract it was Shell Rotella factory fill on their engine wasn't it
 
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