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Old Jul 26, 2007 | 11:26 AM
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This SUCKS

I have had numerous occassions where my 04 PSD spits coolant out of the degas bottle. Originally the dealer changed out the egr cooler due to it leaking. The truck never overheats, my standalone gauges show a coolant temp of 115 degrees at it's highest yet the gauge rose enough to turn on the check gages light. I am so sick and tired of my truck spitting coolant. I feel cheated with this truck purchase. It has been in for a turbo, stuck throttle plate and a window regulator. Other than those problems listed it has been a great vehicle.

I changed the cap just incase, it still puked. There is no cross contamination of fluids....yet. Judging from what i have read, it sounds like head gaskets??????

The other bummer is this, incase it is head gaskets what is going to keep this from occuring again? Have they updated/upgraded the head gasket kit and studs? At this point I need somebody to talk me off of this bridge I am about to jump off of.


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Old Jul 26, 2007 | 12:46 PM
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I've read on other posts here that in some diesels, the bottle must be at the min mark. Otherwise, the truck pukes the excess. I've read that some guys with the problem reduced coolant to the min mark and have not had further problems. You might want to try this before taking the truck to be seen.

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Old Jul 26, 2007 | 12:57 PM
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Right. Trust me when I say have done everything possible to avoid the inevitable. I hate to say it, but I think I just joined the head gasket club. You know what a bigger bummer is? I searched around yesterday on the internet looking for head gasket blogs. HOLY CR*P. I could not believe the amount of 04 PSD owners who have had problem after problem after problem with the engine. WHAT GIVES???? I hope my truck is the exception.I am expecting a call today with the prognosis from the dealer. Ill keep ya posted.
 
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Old Jul 26, 2007 | 01:02 PM
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Your gauge reads 115 degrees at operating temp? How high is the degass bottle filled?
 
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Old Jul 26, 2007 | 01:21 PM
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I understand how you feel about your problem , but Ford will fix it and fix it very well. That is what they are supposed to do. You need not worry because if it is not fixed right they will do it until its right.
 
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Old Jul 26, 2007 | 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by badbrad60
Your gauge reads 115 degrees at operating temp? How high is the degass bottle filled?
I am with brad on this one, if your A/M gauge only reads 115F then it is not working properly, or you have the sensor in a bad location. At 115F the thermostat is not open yet.
 
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Old Jul 26, 2007 | 02:01 PM
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Either somethings not right with your gauges or truck, 115*? Not sure that's even possible on a running engine.

I was going across S Dakota a couple weeks ago when it was around 110, mine never went over 220, the fan took care of it. What did concern me is that my tranny started getting pretty warm, so I did slow down when I saw that happening.

Never puked any coolant, either. It was close when I checked it at fillup time, but never once overflowed. It's a whisker below minimum at normal operating temps.
 
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Old Jul 26, 2007 | 02:29 PM
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Shoot I meant 215 degrees. The coolant 215, the boost 18psi, the trans 178 and the egt's 1050. The day was about 112 degrees. That is what is weird it does not run hot (215 is not considered hot) it does not perculate in the bottle, there is no fluid contamination and the levels were perfect (min on the the bottle). I love this truck and am kinda bummed that these problems are already starting.
 
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Old Jul 26, 2007 | 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by chata
Shoot I meant 215 degrees. The coolant 215, the boost 18psi, the trans 178 and the egt's 1050. The day was about 112 degrees. That is what is weird it does not run hot (215 is not considered hot) it does not perculate in the bottle, there is no fluid contamination and the levels were perfect (min on the the bottle). I love this truck and am kinda bummed that these problems are already starting.
Okay thats better

Don't get too bummed out, some of the early trucks had bad heads from the factory that were not machined flat and some experienced head bolts that were not properly torqued. Let the tech do the repair and if it is done correctly you should not have anymore problems. Also the head gaskets have been updated.
 
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Old Jul 26, 2007 | 03:03 PM
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Also, I believe yours is one of the trucks that has the mottle marked wrong. Running at min is probably overfilled. There was a TSB to lower the mark about 1/4-1/2" I beleive. And if your aftermarket gauge is only reading 215, but your Ford gauge is getting to the danger zone and turning on a check gauges light I think maybe your aftermarket gauge is wrong. I have had my truck up to 206 and the sotck gauge doesn't move at all. Maybe some of the other guys who tow heavy can tell you if that sounds right, but it doesn't to me.
 
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Old Jul 26, 2007 | 03:07 PM
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Thanks guys. Coincidentally, I have a SCT 1704 tuner I use. When I am not towing I run it in high performance mode. I DO NOT HOTROD. I just like the extra power if I need it. I tow in "tow safe" mode and I kinda baby the truck. I tow @ aroud 65-75 mph and watch my gauges beyond obsessive compulsive. Do you think I should chance reinstalling the tuner once I get it back????? Do you think the tuner caused this? At this point I am gunshy.


 

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Old Jul 26, 2007 | 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by chata
Thanks guys. Coincidentally, I have a SCT 1704 tuner I use. When I am not towing I run it in high performance mode. I DO NOT HOTROD. I just like the extra power if I need it. I tow in "tow safe" mode and I kinda baby the truck. I tow @ aroud 65-75 mph and watch my gauges beyond obsessive compulsive. Do you think I should chance reinstalling the tuner once I get it back????? Do you think the tuner caused this? At this point I am gunshy.


I run a 1704, mostly in economy mode. It's FINE in economy for me and I feel that there is no problem at this setting, however; High Performance mode runs my truck hotter than normal. I too like to "power" of it, but the shifting is poor, the temptation to mat-the-pedal is high, and it causes the truck to throw codes. Personally, I avoid the High Performance setting to mitigate risk. I'm confident that more is not better in cases like this. Try economy next time. It'll still make you launch!
 
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Old Jul 26, 2007 | 03:22 PM
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I don't even know what the OEM gauge showed, gave up looking at it as it's worthless when you have a real gauge.

Is your fan kicking on? That should give a fairly good benchmark of how hot it was. Should be kicking on for sure by 220, mine was cycling a little different times at a little over 210. My EGT's never went over about 950, but I don't have a tuner--------yet.
 
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Old Jul 26, 2007 | 03:47 PM
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Absoluteley, the fan was engaging. The HP mose in my truck shifts fantastic and never runs hot or overboosts or anything. Maybe it is the current flash from a year and a half ago that helped it work like this???
 
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Old Jul 26, 2007 | 06:21 PM
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you need to put the 1704 on ebay and get a sct xcall 2 from spartan diesel.
 
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