My 06 Sd is at the dealer for a overheating & coolant tank overpressurizing possible, headgasket problem 16k miles on the truck,I called the dealer today after one week at the dealr to find out status, they told me they are ordring new cylinder heads. has anyone encounterd this problem with so few miles? I do have a edge programmer afe cold air intake & mbrp cool duals, I have always babied this thing & this is what I end up with I am really pissed off about someone going into my engine @ 16k miles.....

 

Is this a mod friendly dealer?

 

I have ran and SCT tuner for a while and have 55,000 on my truck. I have kept my foot in it to about 1400 deg but only for 5 -10 seconds on the street tune.

I drive my truck pretty hard but have never let it get hot and I hear the SCT tuners are the safest out there. If you are running a tuner with out EGT gauges you are asking for trouble. I also tow a 34' vortex toy hauler in 95 deg plus heat.

If they are replacing your head you must of gotten hot enough to warp them beyond the minimum spec's.

If you want to push hotter tunes you should switch to ARP head studs and hypermax head gaskets. You would probably have to supply the after market parts and the dealer would not to warranty their work, but if you truck is already blacklisted for running a tuner, you might as well put in better parts.

 

Those two statements don't go together. Installing and A/M air intake and a Edge module are two of the worst mods for the 6.0 and one of the quickest ways to trash a 6.0 & Torqushift. To answer your question, yes head gasket and Torqushift issues are quite common running the Edge on the 6.0.

Pray that FMC doesn't send an engineer out to look over your truck as if they do they will more than likely void your engine warranty do to the A/M air intake and Edge module. If this happens you will be footing the bill yourself for the repairs.

I don't mean to be so harsh but as the old addage goes if your going to play you usually have to pay. You may have wanted to do a little more research on modding the 6.0 & Torqueshift prior to adding the mods. There is a ton of information posted here on the Edge module and A/M air intakes for the 6.0.

 

I removed the edge module from the truck it has been off for several weeks!!

 

what to do differnt in the future? when I get the truck back should I trade it in on a new truck with better power or are you suggesting trying another programmer? Im not sure what you are saying is the Edge programmer just crap?
What is wrong with the afe intake kit?

 

If it is fixed there is no reason to trade it off. What kind of power are you looking for? Last check the 6.0 was at 325Hp & 570Lb-ft from the factory. Are you looking for a tow vehicle or a race vehicle? I am not trying to be a SMA just trying to determine what it is you are looking for with your truck.

I am saying that the Edge and the 6.0 have not had a good history together. Lifted heads and trashed Torqushifts are not un-common running the Edge. By your profile you have been a member of FTE since August of 2006. There have been hundreds of posts on tuners and the Edge here on FTE, most of the issues have been spelled out.

The tuner of choice on the 6.0 & Torqushift is the "SCT XcalII with Custom Tunes" form Matt at Spartan Diesel or Eric at Innovative. With this setup either one of them can control and program all parameters of the PCM, TCM and Torqushift to match your driving style and load. This has been proven the safest way to performance mod the 6.0 & Torqushift.

A/M air intakes work by decreasing the filtration to increase air flow. On the 6.0 the OEM Donaldson Powercore is the best filtration on the market, it provides more air than the 6.0 can use until you exceed 500RWHP and can be run up to 80k miles before it needs to be replaced.

By installing the A/M air intake you gained no performance benefits, but you did decrease the filtration.

Generally a good 6.0 tech and/or a FMC engineer can determine if a tuning module has been used if they look close enough. Removing it covers some tracks but not all.

FYI if you were not aware of it installing "Tuners/Modules" and A/M air intakes are a big no no in FMC's eyes and they have a pretty good track record of voiding the engine warranty with these mods installed.
Don't get me wrong there is nothing wrong with properly modding your truck, just understand that with modding comes the responsibility of paying for all your own repairs.

If you have not installed gauges yet, at the very minimum, you need EGT, Trans Temp and Fuel pressure.

 

Thanks Blackhat ,I thouight I did quite a bit of research on programmers but I was wrong!! I will be talking with Matt at Sparten when I get her back!! thanks for your info!!

 

Not a problem glad to be able to help, lots of good info posted here in the 6.0 forum. Read the articles in the "Tech Folder" sticked at the top of the 6.0 section. Also if you have not got gauges yet, get some. If you didn't get rid of your OEM Donaldson air intake, re-install it and sell the AFE on ebay or craigslist.

If the 6.0 tech replaces the head gaskets correctly you should be good to go. Ask the dealer if they will install ARP headstuds if you furnish them. These are a good upgrade, but FMC usually won't approve them for warranty replacement but if you have a good relationship with your tech many times they will install them if you supply them. Never hurts to ask your tech, most they can say is no.

Good luck

 

Took the Trk back to Ford, for the second time in a month, for puking coolant. The first time they replaced the EGR cooler, new cap, etc. The trk's allways been completely stock. I'll have to wait & see what they do this time.

 

Sark,

Have the dealer check the oil cooler to make sure there is coolant flow through it. The way I understand it is the coolant flows in series through the oil cooler then to the EGR cooler. If the oil cooler is plugged or reduced in flow then the EGR cooler gets insufficient cooling. This can cause your EGR to fail completely or cause it to boil the coolant.

There are more knowledgable folks on here than I am. If I'm wrong hopefully they will chime in and correct me.

 

Thanks. I thought the same thing but, they just replaced the EGR cooler last month for the same problem.

 

Well, I drove over to Ford to ck on my trk as they've had it for 9 days now. As I talked to the Service Rep, & he's been great, said "lets go take a look at it & by the way you were right it was blown head gaskets". I had asked him if they ck'd the head gasket possibility when they replace th EGR cooler. Now the truth's out that they must not have. I should get it back by this coming Sat. or Mon. I'll have it back about a wk & 1/2 & leave on a 7 wk trip into Colorado, Idaho, Orgon, etc. towing our 37 ft 1/5 whl trailer. Of the 43,000+ miles on the trk 30,000+ miles have been towing the trailer.

Wish me luck!!

 

Just got mine back from the dealer 3 days ago. Cracked both heads! Displayed the same overheating issues. It only has 50k on it.Next is the torqueshift. It's burnin up the clutch packs...

 

How come the Edge is the bad stuff? I have one on mine since it was new, installed a K&N filter system, 4" Magnaflow cat delete/turbo-back system. I did not have any issues with anything. The truck currently have 65k miles on it now.