I've got an 01 250 cc PSD 4x4 - 145000 miles. So far I've got the BTS valve body, kwik filter, 4 inch straigth pipe exhaust, and jody chip. I absolutley love the truck. Its my everyday driver and I tow quite alot of stuff - offshore boats, jetskis, triple axle trailers, etc.

Heres the deal, plain and simple I want some more power. I want a beast of a truck that blows so much smoke it blacks out the duramax behind me. What do I need to do to make that happen?

I guess first step is BTS tranny then dual hpops (stealth) and fuel system. What injectors do you recommend - true 530's? New rods? What else? How much am I looking at - 15000?

 

black smoke ya need a cummins! if you want some serious smoke!jmo

 

you want a cummins, you buy a dodge,

you love your powerstroke, you get,
hybrid 530s,
dual hpop,
fuel system,
new tuning,
big turbo, custom QSSB quick spool, or a set of twins.
5 in. exhaust,
fire ring kit.
head studs
--figure out which rods you have, or just go with some cunninghams,
yep, sounds like about 15K to me.

check this out--------http://www.wideopenperformance.net/VehicleProducts.aspx?ID=1

 

I agree buy a dodge, or if you love your truck that much, do a transplant!

 

you want a cummins, you buy a dodge,

Or a school bus.

 

No point in getting hybrids if you are going for big oil.

What most people don't know, is that 500hp is MUCH more than most ANYONE could ever need OR want. You can do a relatively cheap (considering what you are getting) engine build for a solid 475ish hp engine, but once you go over much past that you will need to seriously beef up the reciprocating parts, IE rods and pistons. There is alot of "nice" stuff you can do, such as ceramic coating on all places exhaust touches, teflon piston skirt and bearing coatings, fire rings and main girdles, main studs, etc that you don't really need, but it's nice to have, however it still costs LOTS of money.

I would start off with a regulated return fuel system, from the tank to the engine. This includes 5/8" pickup, or sump, and then large line to twin inline stock pumps, or aeromotive, etc, and a regulated return system on the engine. Range anywhere between $800 and $1300 depending on what you are getting. Then, depending on if you have a strong HPOP, or a weak one, go Big oil ($2000-3000) and BD code 530 injectors ($2500-$3500), or stock HPOP and hybrid injectors. You'll get better atomization and more fuel flow with true 530 injectors, hence more power (and less smoke, relative to the CC). For the turbo, my opinion is that with the nice compound turbo kits out there on the market, why go with a big single turbo which is much less streetable than a compound setup? Blackwidowdiesel sells compound systems, using a Turbonetics drop in replacement for $1300, and the piping and other stuff, plus the second turbo for $3500 more. The compounds will spool very quick, hit lots of boost, and make much less smoke spooling than a big single would. That brings me to headstuds $700 if you are going over 40psi of boost, a hi-rev valve spring kit for $800ish, and a niceity would be hi-rise intake plenums $500. Some other things you can do if you want more "security" are: billet rods-$2500-3500, main studs- $400, main girdle $1000-2500, Mahle pistons- $1100, ceramic and teflon coating on the pistons for $800ish, inconel valves, ported heads, etc the list goes on. Most of the stuff i listed you don't need, however it makes the whole engine go nicer together. Like ceramic coating everywhere you can put it, you can safely raise the red-line EGT limit to 1500*+. My theory is to get all you can safely afford, because when you are on the dyno or pulling a sled, at the drag strip etc, the last thing i want to worry about after i spent several thousand dollars on my engine, is it blowing up. If i got all the beefiest parts i could afford, i'd be alot more confident.

 

hey kris, that all makes good sence, but please tell me why hybrid 530s run on the stock hpop. I dont know much of the hpop oil preassure and injector particulars.

but hunter, if your going to spend the money, you might as do it right the first time, take kris's advice, also, i really like the twin turbo idea with the TN drop in.
get your credit card ready.

 

the purpose of hybrid injectors is to keep your stock pump but still get big power easily. But seeing how well big oil works with stock injectors, i tend to shy away from the hybrid idea. I'm all for high ICP, which leads to higher injection pressure, more power and less smoke. The hybrid injector uses a stock top half of the injector, and the 530 lower half. The same amount of oil pressure has to press on a much larger area of fuel, it still pushes out the fuel, however it doesnt do it with as much force, which means you have lower injection pressure. The stock injector has a 7:1 ratio, so for every 1 pound of oil pressure you have 7 pounds of injection (fuel) pressure. For the hybrids, i believe it is closer to 5:1. If you spend the money for big oil, and then you get the hybrids, it will work, however you can easily support alot more power and fuel flow for the same money. However, DO NOT do BD 530's on stock oil pump. That would be a joke...

 

that make sence, so, need the easiest way to increase ICP as you say,

 

Well let me say this, you want to keep a steady, high ICP as the revs go out. With a stock pump and hybrids, you will get decent performance less than full throttle because the HPOP is putting out all it can, and still the injectors are not consuming as much oil as the pump is putting out. But with a WOT run, the injectors far outweigh the pump's output, and you get low ICP with lots of black smoke and less power.

Seeing that i can set a low ICP code with my STOCK injectors, and stock pump, no way im going to put LARGER injectors with the same size pump.. Doesn't make sense to me... I think my next performance mod is going to be big oil, once i save up from my last big expenditure

 

thanks for the info kris, and sorry to hi-jack your thread hunter, but hope you may have learned a little from that too.

---we need to know as much info as possible when making that final purchase.

any how, what power level you looking for, me personaly, id hope to see 450 hp
900 tq one day soon.