428 into a 58
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428 into a 58
Ok so heres my deal. I scored an awesome deal where i got a 58 shortwide in great shape but no motor or trans. A 63 ford with a 428 motor and c6 trans was thrown into the deal. I want to know how hard it is going to be and what else if anything i am going to need (besides tools,) to put the motor into the 58. ANY help would be greatly appreciated. thanx!
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Wow. That sounds like a really tough job. Maybe you should just send it all to me and I'll take it all off your hands. 
Actually, we have members here who have done that swap (and larger motors). Some of them will be along with particulars shortly...
Actually, we have members here who have done that swap (and larger motors). Some of them will be along with particulars shortly...
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It means fabbing ALL new motor & trans mounts, re-locating them in the corresponding place in order to support the new engine & auto trans.
New radiator, hoses, trans cooler & lines to go w/ them as well.
If the truck doesn't allready have a Auto Trans Steering column, you'll have to acquire one or cut a hole in the trans inspection plate for a floor shifter.
Upgraded electrical to go w/ the new engine.
New Propeller Shaft.
And that's just off the top of my head.
New radiator, hoses, trans cooler & lines to go w/ them as well.
If the truck doesn't allready have a Auto Trans Steering column, you'll have to acquire one or cut a hole in the trans inspection plate for a floor shifter.
Upgraded electrical to go w/ the new engine.
New Propeller Shaft.
And that's just off the top of my head.
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Actually, you can get a bellhousing that will bolt to the FE and bolt up to the original bellhousing motor mounts. At that point, you'll want to fabricate a front cradle to hang the front of the engine on the crossmember just ahead of the front pulley. If you hunted, you could find a bellhousing for an automatic, then you'd be looking for a FMX auto, a good transmission. Petty much a stock lash-up. Not that exotic.
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if the engine is original to the 63 Ford, then it is not a 428. the 428 was first available in 66 only.
probably a 390 if is the original engine to that car.
as for installation, probalby the easiest way to go if you are keeping the original front end, is to buy a engine crossmember from one of the many vendors on this board. it is a simple bolt in or even weld in design that uses the engines motor mounts. you will have to fab up a transmission crossmember and more than likely have to remove the original rear crossmember for clearance, but that is a fairly straight forward project.
if you do have a 428, good for you. they are a very desirable engine and fairly sought after (though not as sought after as the 428CJ engine).
good luck
Mike
probably a 390 if is the original engine to that car.
as for installation, probalby the easiest way to go if you are keeping the original front end, is to buy a engine crossmember from one of the many vendors on this board. it is a simple bolt in or even weld in design that uses the engines motor mounts. you will have to fab up a transmission crossmember and more than likely have to remove the original rear crossmember for clearance, but that is a fairly straight forward project.
if you do have a 428, good for you. they are a very desirable engine and fairly sought after (though not as sought after as the 428CJ engine).
good luck
Mike
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well the origanal motor for 63 should be a 292. which would be the same as a 58 so your front motor mounts might already be built and you might be able to use the tranny crossmember from the 63 and every thing which would make the job way to simple.
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Originally Posted by pcmenten
Actually, you can get a bellhousing that will bolt to the FE and bolt up to the original bellhousing motor mounts. At that point, you'll want to fabricate a front cradle to hang the front of the engine on the crossmember just ahead of the front pulley. If you hunted, you could find a bellhousing for an automatic, then you'd be looking for a FMX auto, a good transmission.
428 Flexplate: C6AZ-6375-B / marked: C6VP-6380-B or C7AP-6375-A
428 Flywheel: C6AZ-6375-A / marked: C6AE-6380-B
Last edited by NumberDummy; Jul 12, 2007 at 02:44 AM.