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Old Jul 1, 2007 | 09:22 PM
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Matercylinder question

We are going to put another mastercylinder on my dads 1955 ford fairlane. I know it's not a truck but I know you guys can help me out. It has the original one on it and he wants to put one on it so he can have front and rear brakes with seperate lines going to them. I can't remember if it is a 2 or 4 bolt but we was at a car show and I think the one's on a 70 model cuda will work, so I believe it is a 4 bolt master cylinder. Heck I'll have to look and make sure. Anyway is there one out there that we can get that is in the ford line. All the mustangs I looked at seem like they wouldn't work but I could be wrong adout that to. Just wanted to see if there is anyone here that can help us out. Thanks Scott
 
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Old Jul 1, 2007 | 09:35 PM
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As a member of the Fairlane club of America, I can try their forum. I may not get an immediate response, though.
 
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Old Jul 1, 2007 | 10:15 PM
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What is important is that the new master cylinder bore is compatible with your brakes. I'm not sure how many bolts are on your stock cylinder but almost all of the late Ford products are 2 bolt and it should be a nut and bolt job. Good luck
 
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Old Jul 2, 2007 | 02:53 AM
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Ford cars and trucks from 1967 all have dual master cylinders. They have a two bolt mounting, as does B5A-2140-B = your current master cylinder.
 
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Old Jul 2, 2007 | 09:25 PM
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Like said, 1967 on. My FCA response was 74-77 Mustang II, if swapping to disc fronts using Granada spindles. Mid 80's Lincoln Versaille, too.
 
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Old Jul 4, 2007 | 11:26 AM
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My 55 Fairlane is 4 bolt one line. To do what you are trying to do I would go with a later model power brake booster (Hydrovac) with a duel master. The Master then having 2 bolts. It seems to me that some of these early Fords had power brakes with one line masters. The early Hydrovac should fit yer fire wall if ya don't already have one. Than the duel master that Bill and Havi are talking about will fit the 2 bolts on the hydrovac. Hope this helps and correct me if I am wrong on the early Hydrovac,s Bill.
 
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Old Jul 4, 2007 | 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by arctic y block
My 55 Fairlane is 4 bolt one line. To do what you are trying to do I would go with a later model power brake booster (Hydrovac) with a duel master. The Master then having 2 bolts. It seems to me that some of these early Fords had power brakes with one line masters. The early Hydrovac should fit yer fire wall if ya don't already have one. Than the duel master that Bill and Havi are talking about will fit the 2 bolts on the hydrovac. Hope this helps and correct me if I am wrong on the early Hydrovac,s Bill.
Hydrovac's are remote mounted boosters, used when there wasn't room of the firewall for a master cylinder/booster combo, or when the master was mounted underneath the floorboards. 1955/56 Fords and 55/57 T-Birds had the master on the firewall, the booster on the left fender apron. Every Studebaker made with power brakes, had the booster on the fender apron, the master under the floorboards.


Hydro-boost was used when rear disc brakes were present.

While the 1977/79 Lincoln Versailles was built off a Granada/Monarch, the rear axle is a 9 incher with disc brakes. The Granada's with rear discs used an 8 inch rear end with disc brakes. The Versailles was a sales failure, notable today for the 9 inch rear end and the rear discs. Ford did some funny things with the Versailles. Notable was the crankshaft that used in the 1977 302's. It was Versailles only.
 

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Old Jul 4, 2007 | 01:25 PM
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Thank You Bill. I have always called them both Hydrovacs. It's still Great to learn something new every day. So it is a Brake Booster if behind the master and a Hydrovac if remote? Bill is there any Booster that will fit the bolt pattern for the master on the fire wall on the Fairlane in question?
 
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Old Jul 4, 2007 | 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by arctic y block
Thank You Bill. I have always called them both Hydrovacs. It's still Great to learn something new every day. So it is a Brake Booster if behind the master and a Hydrovac if remote? Bill is there any Booster that will fit the bolt pattern for the master on the fire wall on the Fairlane in question?
Sorry, I can't say if there's a p/b booster that will fit on the car 55/56 master cylinder. Ford used hydro-vacs on 55/56 cars, because there was no room under the hood for the conventional master/booster set up used then.


Hydro-VACS are remote mounted boosters. On Ford cars, they were usually mounted on left fender aprons. On Studebakers, they were ALL mounted on left fender aprons.


Why the reference to Studebaker on FTE? Because Studebaker had the master mounted under the floorboards like the early Ford cars/trucks did. The hydro-vac power booster setup could be adopted to early Ford trucks, too. This would allow the master to remain under the floorboards.
 

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Old Jul 4, 2007 | 02:34 PM
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Thanks for the info Bill. That's gonna come in handy. I think on mine (because I have so many) I will fabricate one off a mid 80's Ranger II. I think I will try it first without the Distribution Valve. Is that what it's called Bill? That gives ya more to the front than the back to keep ya from spinning out under full braking?
 
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Old Jul 4, 2007 | 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by arctic y block
Thanks for the info Bill. That's gonna come in handy. I think on mine (because I have so many) I will fabricate one off a mid 80's Ranger II. I think I will try it first without the Distribution Valve. Is that what it's called Bill? That gives ya more to the front than the back to keep ya from spinning out under full braking?
Ford had a "mouthful of a description" to ID the 'distribution' valve:

Brake Pressure Differential Proportioning Valve (whew )
 
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Old Jul 4, 2007 | 03:42 PM
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Man that is a mouth full. Proportioning Valve works for me. Thanks Bill.
 
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