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Old Jul 15, 2007 | 10:32 PM
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I personally rebuilt the engine, and used a brand new metal timing gear set. I have not been able to find anything about adjusting the carb...does anyone have a link to something?
 
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Old Jul 16, 2007 | 01:45 PM
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I was having the exact same problem.... Rebuilt my old card, worked good for a bit then died. So one day i just went out and finally bought a reman card from advance. it was doing that pop noise too. I started by replacing all my hose's and fuel pump, and fuel filter. He helped but still did it. The I started adjusting my card, honestly I don't know how to adjust the card too well.. but that doesn't stop me. I idled the engine when it was warm and started to turn the mixture screw tight till it wanted to die then backed off, test drove.... changed but nada. repeated this untill i found the right mixture.. I am no professional, but have had expierence with single barrel carbs. It also could be a vacuum somewhere.
 
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Old Jul 17, 2007 | 12:05 PM
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So I should try to check the vaccum. Okay, I'll try that. Maybe I have a vaccum leak somewhere.
 
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Old Jul 18, 2007 | 10:39 AM
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Okay, so about the carb. Is there no book or website that can help me on this? Or am I to just guess, as it has been suggested here?
 
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Old Jul 18, 2007 | 12:47 PM
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Lets get a better description of what's going on. It backfires through the carb. If you rev it slowly, does it backfire through the carb? Or does it only backfire when you goose the throttle? Have you driven it on the road yet, or is this just in the driveway?
 
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Old Jul 18, 2007 | 02:05 PM
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Reving slowly, I don't believe so. It won't do it at all if its in park or netural. It does it in a gear.

Yes I've driven it on the road. It has not a lot of power, and back fires upon acceration. I don't have a tach that works right now, so I can't tell you at what rpm.
 
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Old Jul 18, 2007 | 10:34 PM
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Well, you said it ran better with the timing advanced. I don't know about this engine, but I know others have occasional problems where the rubber on the harmonic balancer works loose, and the outer ring of the balancer slips. This throws the timing marks off. I wonder what would happen if you go ahead and turn the timing up till it seems to run good. If it starts good too, and the popping goes away, maybe the balancer has slipped.
 
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Old Jul 19, 2007 | 10:37 AM
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While that sounds possible, I don't know for sure it thats true with this engine. The balancer has a tooth on the crankshaft, and therefore the balancer can only go on, one way. Now the tooth could have broke, but I kind of doubt it. I'll check though.

As far as tuning, I'm assuming that the fly by the seat of your pants tuning of the carb is the only way to go. So...I guess we'll see if I can do that.
 
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Old Jul 19, 2007 | 07:20 PM
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Alright. I drove it around today. I messed with the mixture screw. Turned it tight as far as it would go, then I brought it out until it ran right. It only backfires under accerlation from a stop. Accleration on a hill or anything like that, it doesnt. Nor does while normal driving. I haven't touched the timing yet.
 
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Old Jul 19, 2007 | 09:09 PM
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If it has a vacuum advance on the distributor, pull the hose off the carb an suck on it to see if the advance is working. Just a thought.
 
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Old Jul 19, 2007 | 10:50 PM
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Backing firing right when you hit the gas sounds like the accelerator pump is not working correctly. With the engine off, take the aircleaner off and look down the carb throat while you pushback on the throttle. You should see a strong stream of gas pour into the engine right when you move the throttle. If you can move the throttle a little bit before the stream starts, or the stream is a puny dribble, then it will run lean when you hit the gas, and give a terrible hesistation and it can cause the backfiring.

Also about the balancer, true the center has a key and it can go on only one way. But that's only the center hub. There is an outer ring on the balancer were the timing marks are, and it has no mechanical connection to the center part of the balancer except by molded rubber, somewhat like a motor mount. If this rubber gets old and oil soaked, it can come loose and the outside of the balancer can work it's way around, even though the center is still keyed to the shaft.
 
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Old Jul 20, 2007 | 01:22 PM
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If all else fails and since you replaced the timing gear, recheck the cam gear/crankshaft gear timing relationship. Sounds like you might be one tooth off from the proper alignment.
 
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Old Jul 20, 2007 | 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Franklin2
Backing firing right when you hit the gas sounds like the accelerator pump is not working correctly. With the engine off, take the aircleaner off and look down the carb throat while you pushback on the throttle. You should see a strong stream of gas pour into the engine right when you move the throttle. If you can move the throttle a little bit before the stream starts, or the stream is a puny dribble, then it will run lean when you hit the gas, and give a terrible hesistation and it can cause the backfiring.
Should I try spraying carb cleaner on it? Or would I have to replace that little accelerator pump?
 
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Old Jul 20, 2007 | 02:04 PM
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Make sure to check it first, there is no use taking the carb apart if it's alright(you didn't say).

If it's not right, there are several adjustments that should be outlined in the rebuild kit. The rebuilt carb should have been already adjusted.

What's it look like? Is there hardly no fuel squirting out, or is there a big delay before it squirts?
 
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Old Jul 20, 2007 | 02:38 PM
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Are you sure that the plug wires are installed in the correct order?

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