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Old Jun 28, 2007 | 05:16 PM
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It says on the DMV website that stickers were not issued in 1956. Odd.
 
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Old Jun 28, 2007 | 05:17 PM
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http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/reg_hdbk_pdf/appendix_1e.pdf
 
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Old Jun 28, 2007 | 05:21 PM
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IIRC, the plate had the year of issue stamped where the sticker now goes and the only evidence of renewal was the receipt from the DMV. I think that was the case even when the black/gold plates came out. My black/golds have the year impressed into the plate.
 
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Old Jun 28, 2007 | 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by true
It says on the DMV website that stickers were not issued in 1956. Odd.
There were no 1963 stickers either.

The 1956 plates had a raised rectangular section on the right that says 1956 (or just 56, I forget). The background is painted black, (19)56 in yellow. The sticker goes to the left of the raised section, left of the sticker is CALIFORNIA. There was a hole on that raised area originally, but AFAIK, stickers were used 1957/62.


The black plates are stamped 1963. This is where the sticker (1964 to today) goes on the rear plate, the front plate doesn't require a sticker, so 1963 is visible for all to see. Only have a rear plate? Turn it over, 1963 is visible on the backside.
 

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Old Jun 28, 2007 | 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by NumberDummy
The 1956 plates had a raised rectangular section on the right that says 1956 (or just 56, I forget). The background is painted black, (19)56 in yellow.
I have only been a member for a little while, and I found a NumberDummy mistake?!?



Tell me I win a prize or something?!? I am just giving you heat ND! Although the commercial plates were yellow type on black IIRC.
 
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Old Jun 28, 2007 | 05:43 PM
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After further examination of ND's statement, it seems that I have made the mistake. Geez. This guy is too good.
 
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Old Jun 28, 2007 | 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by true
I have only been a member for a little while, and I found a NumberDummy mistake?!?

http://i16.ebayimg.com/04/i/000/a6/dc/84a3_1.JPG

Tell me I win a prize or something?!? I am just giving you heat ND! Although the commercial plates were yellow type on black IIRC.
Where my mistake? Those are the standard issue passenger car 1956 plates used thru 1962. Those plates BACK THEN could be used on pickups. The law requiring commercial plates only if you don't have a camper shell is in force NOW.


No camper shell = you have to use commercial plates on pickups today, but that was not the law until recently. Tonneau covers are not considered camper shells, btw. Some sellers of tonneau covers tell ppl that...it ain't correct.


My 1965 F100 still has its original issued black commercial plates (S28XXX-Culver City ), [with the original Stockton Quincy Ford license plate frames] that I requested, (I'm the original owner) because commercial plates allow free parking in loading zones, and in those days, cost the same to register as non commercial plates. It's not that way today. My 2006 Brand X Crew Cab has D/P commercial plates.
 

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Old Jun 28, 2007 | 05:48 PM
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Is that a Chrysler or DeSoto Airflow? Just curious, a friend has a 1934 DeSoto Airflow sedan..with black plates. He's in the club, too. The car was purchased from long time local sportscar owner/mechanic Bud Hand, the engine is not stock.
It's a Chrysler Airflow with a 35 hood, grille and headlight bezels. I have the original 37 hood and grille, but missing one of the grille surrounds (to mount it back to the body) and the headlight bezels.

I also have a 37 DeSoto sedan, not an Airflow, that is very similar in styling to the Chrysler.

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Old Jun 28, 2007 | 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by 51PanelMan
It's a Chrysler Airflow with a 35 hood, grille and headlight bezels. I have the original 37 hood and grille, but missing one of the grille surrounds (to mount it back to the body) and the headlight bezels.

I also have a 37 DeSoto sedan, not an Airflow, that is very similar in styling to the Chrysler.

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37 DeSoto Airstream, right?
 
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Old Jun 28, 2007 | 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by NumberDummy
37 DeSoto Airstream, right?
I don't know if it's an Airstream. Don't think so.

Here are some pictures of it.





I bought this car recently from an estate sale. It was owned by Wayne L. Glasgow, who was a well known **** and pornography importer into the SF area in the 50s. He also ran an underground speak easy type bar and a "girlie" theater. I have copies of newspaper articles describing his arrest and capture. His first bust by the SFPD actually occurred while he was driving this car. He had pornography contraband in the trunk. From the stories I heard by the estate sale company, he was somehow loosely tied with the mafia. Matter of fact, I have another newspaper article describing that there was a hit put out on him by a Fresno kingpin.

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Old Jun 28, 2007 | 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by 51PanelMan
I don't know if it's an Airstream. Don't think so.

Here are some pictures of it.

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2004-12/914727/auction002.jpg

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2004-12/914727/auction005.jpg

I bought this car recently from an estate sale. It was owned by Wayne L. Glasgow, who was a well known **** and pornography importer into the SF area in the 50s. He also ran an underground speak easy type bar and a "girlie" theater. I have copies of newspaper articles describing his arrest and capture. His first bust by the SFPD actually occurred while he was driving this car. He had pornography contraband in the trunk. From the stories I heard by the estate sale company, he was somehow loosely tied with the mafia. Matter of fact, I have another newspaper article describing that their was a hit put out on him by a Fresno kingpin.

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Standard Catalog of American Cars 1805-1942 / ISBN: 0-87341-428-4 (krause.com). The non Airflow cars in 1935 & 1936 were called Airstreams. That name was dropped in 1937.

The Tenderloin and North Beach sections of San Francisco are well known as a porno area then and now = prolly the most famous in the US. Since the mob controlled gambling and brothels in NV, anyone dealing in **** in CA must have had some connection with a capo di tutti capo.
 

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Old Jun 28, 2007 | 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by 51PanelMan
I don't know if it's an Airstream. Don't think so.

Here are some pictures of it.

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2004-12/914727/auction002.jpg

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2004-12/914727/auction005.jpg
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The front and rear bumpers on your '37 DeSoto were a big favorite with customizers in the 1950's and are impossible to find today. They were used in 1937 only.
 
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Old Jun 28, 2007 | 07:59 PM
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Thanks number dummy for the 56 weight and advice---seems far to drive,but who knows??? I have 2 california yellow plates for 1956 and the one has a sticker says 1959 and they are 2 separate numbers. I always liked the old plates and have 100 or so. So you collect plates too?? What part of car-culture were you NOT involved in??? My Studebaker sign is the lazy S but looks cool on my new bar/hot-rod shop---today a 15 yr old kid was here to look at all my vehicles-and couldn't even pronounce STUDEBAKER---haha!!!!!He didn't even know what it was!! KID'S TODAY!! Bill
 
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Old Jun 28, 2007 | 08:56 PM
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Read an interesting brief history of Studebaker today. Started in 1856 building wagons. Built them for the Union Army 1862-1865. Had been in business 50 years, and were already building electric "newfangled horseless carriages" when Henry J got his start.
 
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Originally Posted by raerjim
Read an interesting brief history of Studebaker today. Started in 1856 building wagons. Built them for the Union Army 1862-1865. Had been in business 50 years, and were already building electric "newfangled horseless carriages" when Henry J got his start.
Studebaker folded in 1966, but they are still the second oldest makers of wheeled transportation in the world, just behind Daimler-Benz. John M. Studebaker went to the CA Gold Rush, and soon set up shop in Dry Diggins, later the "town" changed its name to Hangtown, and again to Placerville, the name it's known by today. He began making wheelbarrows for miners in 1852, and made a fortune. He was known as "Wheelbarrow" Johnny. He returned to South Bend with the profits, and from that seed money, the Studebaker Wagon Works was formed in 1856.


Placerville also is famous for two other local business men. Armour had a butcher shop, and Levi Strauss made shirts and trousers for miners out of sail canvas. I don't need to tell y'all how those two merchants ended up.


Bill Walford: I'm an extreme car buff, and a long time collector of what a late friend called.."Old Rolling Piles of Misery." I also collect license plates, Ford/Studebaker/Packard dealer license plate frames, porcelain and neon signs, promo model cars, NOS parts, cars and trucks, both real and toy, and books on auto history...have around 2,000. To say the least, the mice around here have very round shoulders. There is very little space for the other crappola I collect. Pueblo Pottery, Mission Furniture, Navajo Rugs, 30,000 books on you name it, and "sporting" goods.


One further useless piece of trivia: The first neon signs in the US were installed at 1000 S Hope Street in Los Angeles. This was the dealership of Earle C. Anthony, the Packard distributor for the West Coast (he also had outlets in NorCal). The signs said: P A C K A R D.
 

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