Ken, I see in the adds on this site the price listing for the flip chip is $325. Does this include the custom programing on both of the programs that would be compatible with the mods I have listed in my profile, or is the listed price for off the shelf flip chips? Thanks in advance.

 

The flip chip includes custom programming. For a flip chip (or any custom chip) we always follow-up the order with a phone call so we can arrange to fax or email the custom programming sheet to you. You then fill it out and fax it back to us. Custom programming is usually finished with 48-72 hours.

 

Well I'm almost embarrased to admit it, with as much time as I spend here, but I went straight to Superchips with my order and spent $425 instead of through you guys. I guess I realized ya'll sold them, but didn't really look for the cost. I had problems with one chip company, and then had another two tell me they couldn't help me. So when I actually talked to the guys at Superchips, they sounded so positive I just ordered it. thanks for your help though. I wish I would have asked a few days earlier. LOL. Oh well. Later.

 

Didn't you start out this thread with:

"I see in the adds on this site the price listing for the flip chip is $325"

How did you not know the price if you knew the price? I'd be embarrassed too.... sort of like the customer I used have at the computer store years ago shyly coming in to ask me questions and then buying it elsewhere.

Loyalty pays....

 

I did start the thread, I found your price after I had spent the money at Superchips. That is the reason I had started it. I was hoping you were going to tell me about some hidden charges so I didn't feel like such a dope. Well Doooh! I will ensure to tell all of my freinds to come to you guys first. I have learned my lesson, and am loyal. I just messed this one up, and cost myself $100 bucks. Thanks.

 

Okay.... :-)

 

[updated:LAST EDITED ON 19-Jan-02 AT 02:44 PM (EST)]Hey Ken, Why is the flip chip cheaper than the regular Superchip?

I'm one of those guys that doesn't really want to run premium fuel all the time, especially when I'm not in the need for the extra ponies. The ability to choose a more stock program and run regular gas for everyday driving, and choosing a more performance tuned program for towing appeals to me.

I've got an Excursion V10 (310 hp, 425 lbft) Are the 26/49 numbers for the chip applicable to this version V10? I've also installed a Banks Powerpack on it. Does this require a different performance program than standard?

Are the other benefits ( improved shift quality, elimination of the speed limiter ) available when in the stock mode?

I also have a Banks Transcommand that increases the clutch pressures to firm up the shifts. Is this compatible with a chip?

Thanks for the help!

 

>Hey Ken, Why is the flip chip cheaper than the regular
>Superchip?
>

The gas engine flip-chip (not V10 gas) is listed for almost $100 more than the standard gas engine chip.

The V10 and diesel flip chips are not listed, they cost alot of money and I don't recommend it for the V10. You're going to pay in excess of $600 for a V10 flip-chip and you won't save any money on fuel with 87 octane because the high octane program generally gives a mileage increase.

>I'm one of those guys that doesn't really want to run
>premium fuel all the time, especially when I'm not in the
>need for the extra ponies. The ability to choose a more
>stock program and run regular gas for everyday driving, and
>choosing a more performance tuned program for towing appeals
>to me.

Your gas expenses will stay roughly the same whether or not you run premium. 93 octane will pickup extra mileage when used with a chip so your fuel costs stay the same.

>
>I've got an Excursion V10 (310 hp, 425 lbft) Are the 26/49
>numbers for the chip applicable to this version V10?

For the Superchip, its listed at 25/49. For the Diablo, 30/49.

>I've
>also installed a Banks Powerpack on it. Does this require a
>different performance program than standard?

Did you get the Powerpack with or without the OttoMind engine-calibration module?

>Are the other benefits ( improved shift quality, elimination
>of the speed limiter ) available when in the stock mode?

Yes.

 

I didn't go with the Ottomind because of the minimal performance improvement for the price.

What kind of (honest) mileage improvement are we talking? Are the results comparable between the Diablo and the Superchip?

The Ottomind spiel stated that it removes the "factory imposed power delay" ?? Are you familiar with what this means, and is this also a function of these chips?

Thanks for your help. Sorry if these questions are in previous posts.

 

>I didn't go with the Ottomind because of the minimal
>performance improvement for the price.
>

Okay, you'd have to remove it with the chip.

>What kind of (honest) mileage improvement are we talking?

It varies. Most pick up 2-3, the newer the code revision from Diablo, the better the results (generally). I've got one person that picked up 6 mpg that emailed me yesterday praising it and asking if he could buy a second chip at the same price! No kidding. I can get you in touch with him if you want me to forward you email address to him.

>Are the results comparable between the Diablo and the
>Superchip?
>

Newer Diablos run cooler and have a higher tow capacity than Superchips (for the performance chip). The downside is you may get occasional smoke during shifts under high throttle. Not big booming clouds, but a puff or so. The Superchips shifts firmer on average, which is great for some people.

Overall, I recommend Diablo for diesel applications. They used to have more issues with not getting it right the first time (1 in 10 verses 1 in 20 with Superchips) and that required us to reprogram. It wasn't a big deal as far as usability, but it could be a hassle shipping it more than once. They've come a LONG way in the last year, and have revised their 4 bank code based on consumer feedback. I have fewer reprograms with Diablo, on average, than Superchips these days....

>The Ottomind spiel stated that it removes the "factory
>imposed power delay" ?? Are you familiar with what this
>means, and is this also a function of these chips?

It sounds vague. Sounds like a basic shift improver.

 

>Overall, I recommend Diablo for diesel applications.

Mines a V10. Sorry if I wasn't clear.

 

No..... my fault. I got my signals mixed up. You did say V10!

Here's a more appropriate response:

>What kind of (honest) mileage improvement are we talking?

With a gas program, not much. 1-2 miles per gallon, 3 if your're lucky. This is about 2 mpg less than the diesel gets for improvement. You'll break even with fuel costs, not spend less like you would with a diesel.

>Are the results comparable between the Diablo and the Superchip?

Very close. Probably couldn't tell the different between them except at lower speeds where the Superchip will have a slightly firmer shift.

 

 

Sorry to dredge up an old thread but, I have the same set up. '04 V10 with a Power Pack and Transcommand. I did not get the Ottomind.

I have a few questions...
1. I have the Transcommand, how does Superchips or Diablo interact with it?
2. What did you eventually go with?
3. Are you happy with it or would you go with something else now?
4. Did anyone ever discover what the 'factory imposed delay' was and if the other options also eliminate it?
5. What would today's recommendations be?

 

Maybe I should start a new thread?