Y Block Water Pump
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I was really considering just foregoing the high mount pump and going to an electric fan but now I'll have the correct fan mount and crank pulley (Thanks to Kevin
!!) I'll be using my (new) high mount pump.....It wasn't very expensive though...... You will have to forfeit the core charge if you do not have a core to send back. ($10)
I think you'll want the A1 Cardone #58233 that's the one I have....
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Rick
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I am looking to rebuild a water pump for a 1956 F 600 High fan mount water pump 1956 Ford F600
The shaft is .625 in dia and 5.625 in long The bearing is 1.180 in dia and 1.532 in long and is located 1.585 inches from the pulley end.
The large diameter of the seal measures about 1.75 inches dia and the small diameter 1.470 in dia
Casting number is EBV8505-D The block casting number is ECG Dearborn casting. 272 Cu In Y block
Note the water bypass (image 1822) on the back of the pump. The side water bypass is plugged with a pipe plug. out the other side is a pipe about 4 inches long.
The shaft is .625 in dia and 5.625 in long The bearing is 1.180 in dia and 1.532 in long and is located 1.585 inches from the pulley end.
The large diameter of the seal measures about 1.75 inches dia and the small diameter 1.470 in dia
Casting number is EBV8505-D The block casting number is ECG Dearborn casting. 272 Cu In Y block
Note the water bypass (image 1822) on the back of the pump. The side water bypass is plugged with a pipe plug. out the other side is a pipe about 4 inches long.
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Water Pump - Need used high fan mount for 55
I am looking for a high fan mount water pump to have rebuilt. These are obsolete and no rebuilts are available anywhere. You know what they are if you have one. Please - no advise - I could write a book about them. Cardone is the main supplier of rebuilts Pt #58-233. They were common on Y-blocks from '54 - '56. Thanks for the help. Rich
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Well I don't have one, but I ran through that recently. I actually had mine and was able to get it rebuilt.
I even called Cardone since they had the pump on their website. At that time they said that it wasn't obsolete but that they just didn't have any at the moment. After they wouldn't give me a date they would have them, I told them that they never would and they should know since they build them. It looks like now the search doesn't go back that far. It stops at 1956.
Hopefully you can find one. Good luck on your search.
I even called Cardone since they had the pump on their website. At that time they said that it wasn't obsolete but that they just didn't have any at the moment. After they wouldn't give me a date they would have them, I told them that they never would and they should know since they build them. It looks like now the search doesn't go back that far. It stops at 1956.
Hopefully you can find one. Good luck on your search.
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Thanks Joe, Since they don't make em anymore and they ran out of cores, the only way to get one is to pull one off an engine that isn't going to be used or find one laying around. I am trying to avoid reconfiguring to use the readily available non-high fan mount water pumps and still hold some hope some one has one the can give up.
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Here are some shots from the parts catalog. I shipped mine off and he had no problems rebuilding it. He just pulled the seals and such from what he had on hand in his shop.
My build thread has a discussion on the water pump starting around here:
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...l#post13359570
My build thread has a discussion on the water pump starting around here:
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...l#post13359570
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He had me text him a picture of my pump to be sure of what I needed. That picture was sufficient for him to know exactly what it was. It takes a different bearing from the other pumps, and I had a very hard time finding them until I called John. They trimmed the shaft on an off-the-shelf bearing to fit my needs and sold me a rebuild kit for a very reasonable price. It has a new style seal that is an improvement over the older designs.
They will also rebuild your pump if you ship it to them.
I will gladly do business with them again.
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Where did you see that? It looks like they have the 272 water pump but I couldn't find the 239 high fan mount water pump.
Or did you mean they would rebuild your core for you?
Or did you mean they would rebuild your core for you?
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1954/64 Y Block Water Pumps
239/256: 1954 B500/700, C500/700, F100/700.
ANTIQUE AUTO SUPPLY in Arlington TX has 1 = 817-275-2381.
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B6C-8501-B .. Water Pump / Obsolete
272: 1956 F100/500 & F600 without Heavy Duty Engine.
272/292: 1957/64 F100/700 & P100/600 / 292: 1961 C series from serial number 160,001 / 1962/64 C Series.
ANTIQUE AUTO SUPPLY has 1.
NOS PARTS LTD in Waxahachie TX has 1 = 972-937-2201.
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B6T-8501-B .. Water Pump / Obsolete
239/256: 1955 B500/700, C500/700, F100/700.
272 Heavy Duty: 1956 B700, C500/700, F600/700.
GREEN SALES CO. in Cincinnati OH has 1 = 800-543-4959.
B6T-8501-BR .. Authorized Ford Rebuilt Water Pump / Obsolete
CARPENTER NOS OBSOLETE PARTS in Concord NC has 2 = 800-476-9653.
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B7T-8501-A .. Water Pump / Obsolete
272/292: 1957/60 C Series / 292: 1961 C Series before serial number 160,001.
CARPENTER NOS OBSOLETE PARTS has 3.
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Scroll down to see another shot / See post 29 for water pump applications.
B4A-8591-A .. Water Pump Repair Kit-Use with EAT-8501-B
B5A-8591-C .. Water Pump Repair Kit-Use with B6T-8501-B
No Ford Dealer or obsolete parts vendor has either one.
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B6C-8591-A .. Water Pump Repair Kit-Use with B6C-8501-B
MILLER OBSOLETE PARTS in Binghamton NY has 1 = 607-722-5371.
TISON MOTOR CO. in Estill SC has 1 = 803-625-2551.
KLIMESH MOTOR SALES in Calmar IA has 1 = 563-562-3241.
CARPENTER NOS OBSOLETE PARTS in Concord NC has 903 (!) = 800-476-9653.
B4A-8591-A .. Water Pump Repair Kit-Use with EAT-8501-B
B5A-8591-C .. Water Pump Repair Kit-Use with B6T-8501-B
No Ford Dealer or obsolete parts vendor has either one.
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B6C-8591-A .. Water Pump Repair Kit-Use with B6C-8501-B
MILLER OBSOLETE PARTS in Binghamton NY has 1 = 607-722-5371.
TISON MOTOR CO. in Estill SC has 1 = 803-625-2551.
KLIMESH MOTOR SALES in Calmar IA has 1 = 563-562-3241.
CARPENTER NOS OBSOLETE PARTS in Concord NC has 903 (!) = 800-476-9653.