Ethanol Proces
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From: Over Yonder, MN
Originally Posted by TOMHONE
But the $2.39 E-85 price has to be multiplied by 1.31 to get the equivalent gas price. In this case you're looking at a comparable $3.11. NOBODY'S going to buy the stuff at that price.
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Originally Posted by screwy
why 1.31? and lskjhbngf;ksht;gkhsda;kgh... I get tired of the message lengh error.
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From: Over Yonder, MN
Seems a bit steep to me. I get 11.5 on gas and 9.5 on E-85, so I lose about 18%. $2.39 * 1.18 = $2.82 * 25 gal (my average fill up) = $70.5, now 2.99 * 25 = $74.75 I save $4.25, not a lot, but it’s something. The best I ever did was something like $9.50. Now for the disclaimer bit, these are my real world numbers checked now and then by hand but mostly according to the computer which has never been more then a few 1/10’s off. I switch between gas and E-85 quite often, but try to run the tank dry as much as possible before switching, These numbers are based on pure city driving.
…But when you figure in government subsidizing, and everything else, E-85 seems more like fools gold for the moment.
…But when you figure in government subsidizing, and everything else, E-85 seems more like fools gold for the moment.
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From: Honkytonkville
I disagree that people won't buy this, I think for people that have a short drive to work, the bigger concern is the cost to fill up, not MPGs. I know I shreek at a $100 fill up (38 gal in the big truck) but never watch the MPGs, but I normally don't have much of a drive to work. Plus, always remember that E85 takes away from the big oil companies and gives to the farmers. Kinda like Robin hood, always ok in my book, especially living in a rural community
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Ya I was in Illinois a couple weeks ago and couldn’t believe the jump between there and Wisconsin. Made it back to Wisconsin on fumes because I didn’t want to pay the extra 20 cents I think it was per gallon, could be wrong.
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Originally Posted by TOMHONE
In other words pay the equivalent of $3.60 ($2.75 * 1.31) instead of $3.17 for normal gasoline. Give me a brake.
I think the worst I have done is a 17% loss with E85, (just dumping it in with no changes) the best is essentially no loss in my car because I can tune and adjust the computer to compensate.
One thing I usually don't see figured into gasoline is the price you pay at the pump, plus the cost we pay to keep the crude flowing. People are quick to spout about the 'ethanol subsidy'. But fail to consider the billions upon billions of dollars and thousands of lives we have poured into the middle east for decades to keep it a stable, oil producing region.
Ethanol is definitely not 'the ultimate solution' But I would way rather see money stay in the USA (even if it is subsidies and tax breaks) as opposed to being pumped into the middle east to keep some Arab prince rich.
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From: League City, TX
Originally Posted by Corey872
Generally quotes of a 30% reduction in mileage mean people have never burnt a drop of ethanol and/or simply rely on inaccurate information.