Error code 14 Over and Over
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Error code 14 Over and Over
Hello I keep getting this code every time my truck dies,(about every 20 mins) I have replaced ICM and stator, and the relay, and tried a different computer. same result every time, still dies after about 20 mins. I have a 1990 f-150 302. any ideas?
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Code 14, PIP (Profile Ignition Pickup) failure.
Option A:
Did you use a MOTORCRAFT TFI and PIP when you replaced them? Standard, Neihoff, and all the other "replacement" brand parts tend to break down on Fords. Gotta stick with Motorcraft parts if you want the truck to keep running.
Option B:
Sounds like there may be an intermittent ground issue in the ignition system. This too can cause some heating issues. Make sure the grounding strap on the block is in good condition. I think there are a couple. One is near the back of the passenger side head (5678) on my '92. The other is down low below the water pump on the front of the block. Grounds are VERY important on these EEC systems to prevent interference and ghost symptoms. Check 'em all for tightness, corrosion free connection, and wire integrity.
Option C:
I had an ignition coil fail on my '92, and experienced some of the same symptoms. It would run fine while it was cold, but then croak like I turned the key off after it warmed up. The cause of the failure was what REALLY baffled me. The vacuum line from the brake booster was touching it, and the coil actually arced to the hose. Yes, that's right, arced to a RUBBER hose. If I hadn't seen it with my own eyes, I'd have laughed at someone trying to tell me that. (I'm an electrical engineer, btw, and DO understand electricity)
Good luck
Option A:
Did you use a MOTORCRAFT TFI and PIP when you replaced them? Standard, Neihoff, and all the other "replacement" brand parts tend to break down on Fords. Gotta stick with Motorcraft parts if you want the truck to keep running.
Option B:
Sounds like there may be an intermittent ground issue in the ignition system. This too can cause some heating issues. Make sure the grounding strap on the block is in good condition. I think there are a couple. One is near the back of the passenger side head (5678) on my '92. The other is down low below the water pump on the front of the block. Grounds are VERY important on these EEC systems to prevent interference and ghost symptoms. Check 'em all for tightness, corrosion free connection, and wire integrity.
Option C:
I had an ignition coil fail on my '92, and experienced some of the same symptoms. It would run fine while it was cold, but then croak like I turned the key off after it warmed up. The cause of the failure was what REALLY baffled me. The vacuum line from the brake booster was touching it, and the coil actually arced to the hose. Yes, that's right, arced to a RUBBER hose. If I hadn't seen it with my own eyes, I'd have laughed at someone trying to tell me that. (I'm an electrical engineer, btw, and DO understand electricity)
Good luck
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Code 14, PIP
Thanks for the info, I did replace the coil, and the wires are about 8 mths old, but I will check them to make sure they are ok
I did not use motercraft parts, I wish I would have and will in the furure.
I will also check all the grounds, anf see if that helps. Thanks I'll let yopy know how things work. Dean
I did not use motercraft parts, I wish I would have and will in the furure.
I will also check all the grounds, anf see if that helps. Thanks I'll let yopy know how things work. Dean
Originally Posted by Old_Paint
Code 14, PIP (Profile Ignition Pickup) failure.
Option A:
Did you use a MOTORCRAFT TFI and PIP when you replaced them? Standard, Neihoff, and all the other "replacement" brand parts tend to break down on Fords. Gotta stick with Motorcraft parts if you want the truck to keep running.
Option B:
Sounds like there may be an intermittent ground issue in the ignition system. This too can cause some heating issues. Make sure the grounding strap on the block is in good condition. I think there are a couple. One is near the back of the passenger side head (5678) on my '92. The other is down low below the water pump on the front of the block. Grounds are VERY important on these EEC systems to prevent interference and ghost symptoms. Check 'em all for tightness, corrosion free connection, and wire integrity.
Option C:
I had an ignition coil fail on my '92, and experienced some of the same symptoms. It would run fine while it was cold, but then croak like I turned the key off after it warmed up. The cause of the failure was what REALLY baffled me. The vacuum line from the brake booster was touching it, and the coil actually arced to the hose. Yes, that's right, arced to a RUBBER hose. If I hadn't seen it with my own eyes, I'd have laughed at someone trying to tell me that. (I'm an electrical engineer, btw, and DO understand electricity)
Good luck
Option A:
Did you use a MOTORCRAFT TFI and PIP when you replaced them? Standard, Neihoff, and all the other "replacement" brand parts tend to break down on Fords. Gotta stick with Motorcraft parts if you want the truck to keep running.
Option B:
Sounds like there may be an intermittent ground issue in the ignition system. This too can cause some heating issues. Make sure the grounding strap on the block is in good condition. I think there are a couple. One is near the back of the passenger side head (5678) on my '92. The other is down low below the water pump on the front of the block. Grounds are VERY important on these EEC systems to prevent interference and ghost symptoms. Check 'em all for tightness, corrosion free connection, and wire integrity.
Option C:
I had an ignition coil fail on my '92, and experienced some of the same symptoms. It would run fine while it was cold, but then croak like I turned the key off after it warmed up. The cause of the failure was what REALLY baffled me. The vacuum line from the brake booster was touching it, and the coil actually arced to the hose. Yes, that's right, arced to a RUBBER hose. If I hadn't seen it with my own eyes, I'd have laughed at someone trying to tell me that. (I'm an electrical engineer, btw, and DO understand electricity)
Good luck
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Yes, that's right, arced to a RUBBER hose. If I hadn't seen it with my own eyes, I'd have laughed at someone trying to tell me that.
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Many years ago I had an F150 that missed when it was damp weather. One night I poped the hood while it was idling and saw the arc pop pop poping. Hey no problem grabbed a flashlight to see what was arcing to what. HOLLEY CRAP!!! #1 cylinder ignition wire was arcing to the rubber fuel line right after an inline fuel filter. Almost had a hole in the fuel line. Caught it just in time, but had nightmares about what might have happened.
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From: Winchendon MA
Yup happens all the time. infact a certin model motorcycle used to come in to my shop with dead batterys all the time we found the rad overflow tubeing whent across the + terminal and made a small curent draw. Rubber gets loaded with static thus atracts dust and moisture and becomes a high resitance path for curent to leak.
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