new clutch...more problems
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well ive reaplaced the clutch master cylander today and no change in pedal placement and i still have this damn noise...ive replaced everything there is dont know what else to do....well, guess the tranny is coming back out old crappy clutch goes back in, see if it still happens....and even with the new master cylander the damn clutch safety switch still doesnt work...yeah that was new too......thanks again for everyones help...
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Hey newowner,
This year ford has a weak firewall around the clutch master cylinder. There is a set screw where the pedal bar fastens to the pedal assembly shaft. You need to loosen this bolt.
With a long screw driver you must reach around the steering column and tap the clutch pedal off of the shaft. You can then adjust it to the top.
However if you really stomped on the clutch. You may have already cracked the cast aluminum pedal assembly bracket. Check it for cracks.If it is cracked, you will need to replace it. It will not help to adjust it if the bracket is cracked.
As for bleeding the clutch. Just keep adding fluid and drive it. It will bleed itself.
If you have a solid mass flywheel it will growl and make noises. It will cause no harm.
good luck.
This year ford has a weak firewall around the clutch master cylinder. There is a set screw where the pedal bar fastens to the pedal assembly shaft. You need to loosen this bolt.
With a long screw driver you must reach around the steering column and tap the clutch pedal off of the shaft. You can then adjust it to the top.
However if you really stomped on the clutch. You may have already cracked the cast aluminum pedal assembly bracket. Check it for cracks.If it is cracked, you will need to replace it. It will not help to adjust it if the bracket is cracked.
As for bleeding the clutch. Just keep adding fluid and drive it. It will bleed itself.
If you have a solid mass flywheel it will growl and make noises. It will cause no harm.
good luck.
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thanks for the idea i willl check it before i tear everything apart again..i checked the firewall it seems fine to me. would that pedal being cracked cause the noise im hearing from the tranny whenever i let the pedal out? thanks
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No, a cracked pedal assembly bracket will not cause the noise you are hearing.
Does the noise come when its in neutral or in gear?
The fire wall can look fine but be pushed out far enough to cause slop in your pedal.
If you pushed hard enough to blow off the line you may have caused damage to the bracket. I like a jack *** myself did it. So after I replaced my clutch, flywheel, slave and master cylinder. I then went to the junk yard and found a pedal assembly $ 50.00 and replaced it.
After many bloody knuckles and having brake fluid for dinner trying to bleed the *#%!!"&#! thing. I finally got it.
mf
Does the noise come when its in neutral or in gear?
The fire wall can look fine but be pushed out far enough to cause slop in your pedal.
If you pushed hard enough to blow off the line you may have caused damage to the bracket. I like a jack *** myself did it. So after I replaced my clutch, flywheel, slave and master cylinder. I then went to the junk yard and found a pedal assembly $ 50.00 and replaced it.
After many bloody knuckles and having brake fluid for dinner trying to bleed the *#%!!"&#! thing. I finally got it.
mf
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I gave this more thought. If the fork that moves the throw out bearing is returning all the way back. It has to be in your bleeding or pedal adjustment.
If the fork and slave are not returning all the way back then something is stopping the throw out bearing from returning the fork back to engaged position.
Remain cool.
mf
If the fork and slave are not returning all the way back then something is stopping the throw out bearing from returning the fork back to engaged position.
Remain cool.
mf
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there is no fork that i know of its an internal slave...it aslo grinds when i shift gears..above 2000ish..and reverse is worse.. unless you drive and shift really slow.
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The clunk may be in your pedal assembly. There is an assist spring. If the bracket is cracked it will make a clunk. But dude, the grinding does not sound good.
It sounds like something was not installed correctly.
But if the pedal does not totally disengage the clutch it may make noise.
It sounds like something was not installed correctly.
But if the pedal does not totally disengage the clutch it may make noise.
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Originally Posted by mighty ford
Where is the bleeder on the internal slave ?
If you can put it on a lift and look at the left side of the tranny, You will see the oval shaped rubber cover just ahead of the linkages for shifting.
Most will have a small cap over them to prevent corrosion.
If I remember correctly, The wrench necessary to open and close this is 8 mm.
When I replaced my clutch, pressure plate, and slave cylinder, I had to fill my resevoir several times and Ford had a very specific way to bleed and pump up the pressure in the system.
You gravity feed the line and cylinder to remove the air.
Pump the clutch pedal 5 times, Open the bleeder valve.
Do this 3 times.
THEN you repeatedly push down the clutch pedal 10 times allowing a second or 2 each time.
Do this 5 times.If you have problems and have no resistence, Repeat the bolded sequence again.
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My new clutch does grab right off the floor too. The grinding is definately coming from the tranny. I will check the pedal assembly when i get home..im pretty sure everyhting was put together correctly and I bled the system a ton of times..gravity and pressure. I have good flow of fluid when i do both. It does sound like the clutch is not disengaging the whole way..Well after i get home im gonna tear it all apart again and put the old clutch back in and see if it makes the noise..maybe they just sold me a bad clutch....thanks everyone for the help
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How about today i drove the truck around the block a few times and i noticed there is alot of fluid leaking from the front of the tranny(like where the big dust cover plate is) and also another place near it on the bottom cant tell where that is leaking yet, I wiped everything off and drove it again and it is definately leaking. the only place where that fluid would be coming from is the internal slave, correct? maybe my slave is bad..any ideas about that?
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yes that is correct....can you smell and tell if it is brake fluid...if it is, its the slave, if its trans fluid, its your seal around the input shaft?
I dont remember....did you put the old slave back in? If you did, or didn't replace it, when you smashed the pedal down and blew the hose off, you might also have cracked the slave cylinder, and its not getting enough pressure, hence not letting the throwout bearing disengage the clutch, yada yada yada......and causing most of your problems....either way, time for the tranny to come out again (this sounds a lot like my January)
I dont remember....did you put the old slave back in? If you did, or didn't replace it, when you smashed the pedal down and blew the hose off, you might also have cracked the slave cylinder, and its not getting enough pressure, hence not letting the throwout bearing disengage the clutch, yada yada yada......and causing most of your problems....either way, time for the tranny to come out again (this sounds a lot like my January)