AOD w/a column shifter?
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AOD w/a column shifter?
Hey - If I was to acquire an AOD trans out of a newer truck, how would I be able to use a column shifter? I have a 3 spd on the column right now and though I dont like the tranny too much, I do like the fact that I don't have a big shifter of some sort sticking up through the floor. That's why I don't want to go toa 4 spd - an auto would do, if I can get a column shifter.
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I know a few guy doing aod's in Early broncos using this:
http://www.ididitinc.com/cable_shift_linkage_kit.htm
http://www.ididitinc.com/cable_shift_linkage_kit.htm
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Originally Posted by oft
Hey - If I was to acquire an AOD trans out of a newer truck, how would I be able to use a column shifter? I have a 3 spd on the column right now and though I dont like the tranny too much, I do like the fact that I don't have a big shifter of some sort sticking up through the floor. That's why I don't want to go toa 4 spd - an auto would do, if I can get a column shifter.
I sent the link to the friend and he's excited about finally getting the truck on the road.
We also plan on putting TBI injection on that 302 from a 5.0 Thunderbird 1984 vintage. You may want to think about that also. They're in the wrecking yards like cord wood. 99% of them are untouched. Good luck.
AEROBB, thanks for the link!!
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Thanks for the info!
I have a 3 on the tree but would swap to an Auto column. Bart_3500, I sent you an Email!
I have a 3 on the tree but would swap to an Auto column. Bart_3500, I sent you an Email!
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Originally Posted by oft
Thanks for the info!
I have a 3 on the tree but would swap to an Auto column. Bart_3500, I sent you an Email!
I have a 3 on the tree but would swap to an Auto column. Bart_3500, I sent you an Email!
I am real curious about the throttle body injection comment. I was all set to drop a 4.9 w/AOD from my dad's beat up old '91 in my truck - I get about 9 MPG and want to fix thet b4 I start driving here again. My original plan was to keep the 5.8 and use an injection system off an EFI mustang but I did this (in a Mustang) and it was a PITA to get it to run right. So I was going to do the 4.9 swap. But a TBI system might do the trick. What kind of mileage can you get? Were you talking a TBI off a 3.8 or a 5.0? It just sits on top of the carburator style intake, right? any sensors?
The TBI I have is off an 84 Ford Thunderbird. There were only 4 years that Ford used TBI on the bird. I believe they used it more on Lincolns though.
The Ford TBI will bolt directly onto a two barrel carb'd manifold. For a 4 barrel manifold you'd have to use an adapter. There are only 4 sensors and a computer. All the sensors easily adapt to a normally aspired engine except the O2 sensor and that requires you have a "bung" installed at your friendly local muffler shop. It cost me $40 to have two put in my Bronco, because I wasn't sure which side the O2 sensor needed to be on. Now I know it belongs on the passenger side. Do that first before starting any thing else. It'll run like crap without it and you'll have to drive it to the muffler shop unless you're good a exhaust pipe work. You can use the fuel pump that comes off the bird because it's an externally mounted pump. Get the pump and filter that's on the right rear of the vehicle. You may also want to get the cut off switch that's in the trunk. In the event of a "hard" jar or roll over it cuts off the power to the pump. The pump will run even if the engines dead and could cause a fire problem. I don't have one "installed" on my off road Bronco but I'm always ready to hit the ignition switch. On the street you may not be able to if involved in a traffic mishap.
At the local pre-run parts place. I got the computer from behind the passenger side kick panel, and then cut EVERY piece of wire under the hood. This involved head lights wires, blinkers, every time in front of the fire wall. At home you can use a wiring schematic to scrape out the un needed wires. If you pull the head light connectors off, binker connectors off the light bulbs you'll be able to eleminate those easily. Same for the oil sender, temp send etc. If you take some masking tape, you can even write on the connector end what it's too and be able to get rid of it faster and be more assured of what you're doing. Get the four sensors with the loom and make notes where they came from on the donor engine. It'd also be a good idea to take down the VIN # of the donor for future reference.
The TBI I used was off a 5.0 I was told that the TBIs can learn a new engine up or down about 10% (that's bigger or smaller engine). The computers can also be reprogrammed for different c.i. engines. I'd try to stay stock if at all possible. If I can help more you'll have to include an email address. Good luck.
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[QUOTE=aerobb]I know a few guy doing aod's in Early broncos using this:
http://www.ididitinc.com/cable_shift_linkage_kit.htm[/QUOTE]
That's a great link!!! My friend who bought my little s.b. F100 called and it's $160 ish for the after market linkage to make this change using a stock automatic column. Great link. Thanks again.
http://www.ididitinc.com/cable_shift_linkage_kit.htm[/QUOTE]
That's a great link!!! My friend who bought my little s.b. F100 called and it's $160 ish for the after market linkage to make this change using a stock automatic column. Great link. Thanks again.
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Originally Posted by Bart_3500
Also, there's a cable from Locar that connects the carb linkage to the aod to tell it how much pressure to apply to the trans. Without that you'll burn up the trans in just a few miles
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Originally Posted by flcracker9
A few miles is correct. I speak from experience (and a $1500 tranny job) The AOD is very sensitive to TV pressure, and the Lokar cable is the way to go. Opinions vary as to whether you set the TV pressure at idle to Zero, or 5psi.
Quick little video explaining TV cable adjustment. Hope the video works?
http://youtube.com/watch?v=6L3hNzxdiYw
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Originally Posted by flcracker9
A few miles is correct. I speak from experience (and a $1500 tranny job) The AOD is very sensitive to TV pressure, and the Lokar cable is the way to go. Opinions vary as to whether you set the TV pressure at idle to Zero, or 5psi.
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I have no ideas as to mileage. My TBI is on an off roader that goes slow of almost anything that gets in it's way. The 84 5.0 TBI thunderbird I drive back and forth to work has gone as high as 24 mpg on the 40 (each way) trip to and from work. It's a stock engine and aod with 3.08 gears and speed is cruise control at 65 in the slow lane. I must admit that the 24 mpg was at 60 mph. If you go for an aod and TBI from one of the Fords also grab the TVI rod from the TBI to the trans. That'll save the cost of the Lokar cable.
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